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Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

MothaBra

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by MothaBra » Sat, 03 Nov 2001 00:35:46

If the lateral force an a tire is higher than the max "it can take" I
can play nice skidding sounds on asphalt, but I was wondering what the
sound would be on grassy floor surfaces.
I'm not sure if the real-world sound would differ from the "normal"
grass driving sound. In general I think grass sounds won't be
screeching ;)

What do you think?
Did anyone test this with his car? ;)

Robert

stunt game "Crashday"
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

mark jeangerar

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by mark jeangerar » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 13:24:09

OK. I just did some testing:

* 2 inch, thick lawn, dry - I was a bit surprised by this one. I'm not sure
exactly what I expected, but what I got was not it. I did some power slides,
four wheel drifts, and severe understeer under power. I couldn't hear
anything but the suspension, engine and ***. I went in in neutral, no
throttle,*** my head out the open door, parking brake slide to the
drivers side... It sounded like... get this... falling snow. That is the
closest I can come to analogy and I explain sounds for a living. Very light
sound, like wind blowing lightly and slowly through heavy cloth. But if
you've ever heard snow landing, think that and amplify it.

* 2 inch, thick lawn, wet - Sounds to me like driving on water. That
slushing sound that a water ski makes, or snowboards in spring.

* Folded brown lawn - Sounds very much like dirt. Lightly brushy crackly.
Can get some low howling from wheel spin.

* Folded brown lawn, decaying landscape, lumpy - Can hear the hollow impact
of the tread wall and sidewall of the tires on top of the "folded brown
lawn" sound when hitting clods. Suspension sounds are much louder and more
frequent. The engine is, of course, sporadic.

--

"Racing! - Science for the action minded."

mark


Ashley McConnel

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Ashley McConnel » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 18:40:46

Mark - do some recording :D

Awsome stuff!

Ash


| OK. I just did some testing:
|
| * 2 inch, thick lawn, dry - I was a bit surprised by this one. I'm not
sure
| exactly what I expected, but what I got was not it. I did some power
slides,
| four wheel drifts, and severe understeer under power. I couldn't hear
| anything but the suspension, engine and ***. I went in in neutral, no
| throttle,*** my head out the open door, parking brake slide to the
| drivers side... It sounded like... get this... falling snow. That is the
| closest I can come to analogy and I explain sounds for a living. Very
light
| sound, like wind blowing lightly and slowly through heavy cloth. But if
| you've ever heard snow landing, think that and amplify it.
|
| * 2 inch, thick lawn, wet - Sounds to me like driving on water. That
| slushing sound that a water ski makes, or snowboards in spring.
|
| * Folded brown lawn - Sounds very much like dirt. Lightly brushy crackly.
| Can get some low howling from wheel spin.
|
| * Folded brown lawn, decaying landscape, lumpy - Can hear the hollow
impact
| of the tread wall and sidewall of the tires on top of the "folded brown
| lawn" sound when hitting clods. Suspension sounds are much louder and more
| frequent. The engine is, of course, sporadic.
|
| --
|
| "Racing! - Science for the action minded."
|
| mark
|

Mike Stanle

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Mike Stanle » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 19:42:01

The things we have to endure in the name of science :)


> OK. I just did some testing:

> * 2 inch, thick lawn, dry - I was a bit surprised by this one. I'm not
sure
> exactly what I expected, but what I got was not it. I did some power
slides,
> four wheel drifts, and severe understeer under power. I couldn't hear
> anything but the suspension, engine and ***. I went in in neutral, no
> throttle,*** my head out the open door, parking brake slide to the
> drivers side... It sounded like... get this... falling snow. That is the
> closest I can come to analogy and I explain sounds for a living. Very
light
> sound, like wind blowing lightly and slowly through heavy cloth. But if
> you've ever heard snow landing, think that and amplify it.

> * 2 inch, thick lawn, wet - Sounds to me like driving on water. That
> slushing sound that a water ski makes, or snowboards in spring.

> * Folded brown lawn - Sounds very much like dirt. Lightly brushy crackly.
> Can get some low howling from wheel spin.

> * Folded brown lawn, decaying landscape, lumpy - Can hear the hollow
impact
> of the tread wall and sidewall of the tires on top of the "folded brown
> lawn" sound when hitting clods. Suspension sounds are much louder and more
> frequent. The engine is, of course, sporadic.

> --

> "Racing! - Science for the action minded."

> mark



> > If the lateral force an a tire is higher than the max "it can take" I
> > can play nice skidding sounds on asphalt, but I was wondering what the
> > sound would be on grassy floor surfaces.
> > I'm not sure if the real-world sound would differ from the "normal"
> > grass driving sound. In general I think grass sounds won't be
> > screeching ;)

> > What do you think?
> > Did anyone test this with his car? ;)

> > Robert

> > stunt game "Crashday"
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Ruud van Ga

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Ruud van Ga » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:39:50

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 09:40:46 -0000, "Ashley McConnell"


>Mark - do some recording :D

>Awsome stuff!

Indeed. :) Perhaps we can download it directly from the memory in his
brain? ;)

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim  : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art    : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

Gregor Vebl

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Gregor Vebl » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 20:43:09


> Indeed. :) Perhaps we can download it directly from the memory in his
> brain? ;)

Maybe I missed it, was he assimilated already ;)?

-Gregor

Ruud van Ga

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Ruud van Ga » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 22:43:50

On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 12:43:09 +0100, Gregor Veble



>> Indeed. :) Perhaps we can download it directly from the memory in his
>> brain? ;)

>Maybe I missed it, was he assimilated already ;)?

:)

Assimilate... Must assimilate...

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim  : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art    : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

Ashley McConnel

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Ashley McConnel » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:27:29

I vote downloading the Physics / Graphics knowledge from both ur brains.
Although I would need some serious filters, I dread to think what is in
there :)

Ash



| >
| > Indeed. :) Perhaps we can download it directly from the memory in his
| > brain? ;)
| >
|
| Maybe I missed it, was he assimilated already ;)?
|
| -Gregor

Gregor Vebl

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Gregor Vebl » Sat, 10 Nov 2001 23:48:28


> I vote downloading the Physics / Graphics knowledge from both ur brains.
> Although I would need some serious filters, I dread to think what is in
> there :)

> Ash

Trust me, you wouldn't want to know.

(unless ideas such as the one that the attraction of various female body
parts follows a clear resonance curve with respect to their frequency of
oscillation, which means that there is an optimal frequency for each of
them, are what you're after)

-Gregor

Mike Stanle

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Mike Stanle » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 00:02:40

So that's why I could never understand women!

Ruud van Ga

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Ruud van Ga » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 01:04:34

On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:27:29 -0000, "Ashley McConnell"


>I vote downloading the Physics / Graphics knowledge from both ur brains.
>Although I would need some serious filters, I dread to think what is in
>there :)

Hehe, I'd think there are definitive laws against exporting my brain's
contents. ;-)

Ruud van Gaal
Free car sim  : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/
Pencil art    : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/

Ashley McConnel

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by Ashley McConnel » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 01:21:33



| On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 14:27:29 -0000, "Ashley McConnell"
|
| >I vote downloading the Physics / Graphics knowledge from both ur brains.
| >Although I would need some serious filters, I dread to think what is in
| >there :)
|
| Hehe, I'd think there are definitive laws against exporting my brain's
| contents. ;-)
|
|
Damn governments and their laws.......they wont stop me from making the
ultimate sim.....Chris W. and Dave K. better watch out too - I will swoop in
the dead of night :)

Resistance is futile van Gaal :D

Ash

MothaBra

Tire skidding sounds on grassy ground

by MothaBra » Sun, 11 Nov 2001 20:23:33

Ok, thanks very much for your testings!
I think I should find some single sounds of dirt etc. and combine them
to a nice result :)

Ciao!
Robert


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