rec.autos.simulators

by **Michael E. Carve** » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00

I don't know what's happening. I've been having some trouble with Win95
and had to re-install it. This happened soon after I patched N2. Now I
can't get the Rendition version of the patched N2 to work at all in
Win95 (not even the non-dma version). However, I can get the old
version to run in the non-dma version. Is it me or the patch or should
I just take Win95 out and bury it?

BTW: I run DOS for N2 when I am seriously racing, but with NRO I don't
think we will have the option.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **Eric Adam** » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00

Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either but I
tried in a Dos window and it works fine

> I don't know what's happening. I've been having some trouble with Win95
> and had to re-install it. This happened soon after I patched N2. Now I
> can't get the Rendition version of the patched N2 to work at all in
> Win95 (not even the non-dma version). However, I can get the old
> version to run in the non-dma version. Is it me or the patch or should
> I just take Win95 out and bury it?

> BTW: I run DOS for N2 when I am seriously racing, but with NRO I don't
> think we will have the option.

> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

by **CPDRKITE** » Tue, 13 May 1997 04:00:00

I had a similar problem running the rendition version in DOS right after I
installed the patch. It would run fine in SVGA and quick race, but would
lock up in season mode using Nasrend.exe. I wiped everything and did a
new full install and patched it and it works fine now. Can't comment on
Win95 since I've never been able to get it to run using it. Maybe the
file gets screwed up somehow during the patch process sometimes? Beats
me.

Chris

by **Michael E. Carve** » Wed, 14 May 1997 04:00:00

: Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either but I
: tried in a Dos window and it works fine

I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

: > I don't know what's happening. I've been having some trouble with Win95
: > and had to re-install it. This happened soon after I patched N2. Now I
: > can't get the Rendition version of the patched N2 to work at all in
: > Win95 (not even the non-dma version). However, I can get the old
: > version to run in the non-dma version. Is it me or the patch or should
: > I just take Win95 out and bury it?
: >
: > BTW: I run DOS for N2 when I am seriously racing, but with NRO I don't
: > think we will have the option.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **Michael E. Carve** » Thu, 15 May 1997 04:00:00

The latest patch, 1.03(1), does nothing to solve my problem (able to run
non-dma nasrend in Win95 with original nasrend.exe -- unable to run
nasrend 1.03 at all in Win95).

DMATEST indicates that dma is working in Win95. However, I can't run
DMADIAG in a Win95 DOS box.

If anyone can run the patched versions of nasrend in a DOS box in Win95,
could you please post (or e-mail) your *.pif setup?

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **Robert Johnso** » Thu, 15 May 1997 04:00:00

Mike, all I have ever done to run N2 through Win95 is create a shortcut to
Nasrend.exe on the desktop, modify the properties to turn off the screen
saver, go full screen, close on exit, and add the -dma to the command line.
Now I also add the -4. Nothing else special is done. I had a problem
when trying to run the n2.bat on my old 586, but that was because it kept
crashing when trying to play the video clip. Once I edited the BAT file,
it even worked there.

Robert

by **AKH** » Fri, 16 May 1997 04:00:00

I used to be able to run Nasrend in Win95 in a DOS box before patching.
I 'think' I still could run it in a DOS box (Win95) after the first
patch...BUT after the last patch I'm SURE I can't run it now. It pauses,
takes longer between screens, sometimes crashes (sim, not car! ;o) ),
joystick calibration is off...

Since my system is based around a Cyrix 166+ I was happy to find that I
could use Renddma after the first patch with no trouble. All was
fine...no joystick probs or any of the other probs that some were
reporting. I'm not positive if I could or could not run Renddma and/or
Nasrend in a DOS box after the first patch (I believe I could...) BUT I
know I COULD before the first patch and CAN'T after the last.

If anyone has suggestions I would be glad to see them. It is not a
problem 'in most cases' because I prefer to run my Sims in DOS, BUT for
MultiPlayer... :o(

Alan
http://www.kiva.net/~akh/simshop.html

> : Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either but I
> : tried in a Dos window and it works fine

> I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
> Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
> DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
> to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

> : > I don't know what's happening. I've been having some trouble with Win95
> : > and had to re-install it. This happened soon after I patched N2. Now I
> : > can't get the Rendition version of the patched N2 to work at all in
> : > Win95 (not even the non-dma version). However, I can get the old
> : > version to run in the non-dma version. Is it me or the patch or should
> : > I just take Win95 out and bury it?
> : >
> : > BTW: I run DOS for N2 when I am seriously racing, but with NRO I don't
> : > think we will have the option.

> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

by **Michael E. Carve** » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

: : Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either but I
: : tried in a Dos window and it works fine

: I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
: Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
: DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
: to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

I have found out how to run the Rendition version of N2 (patches 1 & 2)
within a DOS box in Windows. I needed to specify the amount of memory
reserved for MS-DOS Protected Mode (DPMI) from "auto" to 16384 in the
pif. There seems to have been some changes in the way memory is
allocated or used in the patches.

Anyone else having trouble running Rendition in Win95 should give this a
try.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **Jay Taylo** » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

> : : Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either but I
> : : tried in a Dos window and it works fine

> : I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
> : Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
> : DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
> : to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

> I have found out how to run the Rendition version of N2 (patches 1 & 2)
> within a DOS box in Windows. I needed to specify the amount of memory
> reserved for MS-DOS Protected Mode (DPMI) from "auto" to 16384 in the
> pif. There seems to have been some changes in the way memory is
> allocated or used in the patches.

> Anyone else having trouble running Rendition in Win95 should give this a
> try.

> --
> **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./. [- < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Thanks for the tip Michael. I haven't been able to run N2 in W95 at
all, so this gives me one more thing to try(without doing anything
drastic<G>)
Jay Taylor

by **Jay Taylo** » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

> > : : Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either but I
> > : : tried in a Dos window and it works fine

> > : I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
> > : Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
> > : DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
> > : to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

> > I have found out how to run the Rendition version of N2 (patches 1 & 2)
> > within a DOS box in Windows. I needed to specify the amount of memory
> > reserved for MS-DOS Protected Mode (DPMI) from "auto" to 16384 in the
> > pif. There seems to have been some changes in the way memory is
> > allocated or used in the patches.

> > Anyone else having trouble running Rendition in Win95 should give this a
> > try.

> > --
> > **************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
> > Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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> Thanks for the tip Michael. I haven't been able to run N2 in W95 at
> all, so this gives me one more thing to try(without doing anything
> drastic<G>)
> Jay Taylor

Nope no such luck. Oh well back to the drawing board.

Jay Taylor

by **Michael E. Carve** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

: >

: > >
: > > I have found out how to run the Rendition version of N2 (patches 1 & 2)
: > > within a DOS box in Windows. I needed to specify the amount of memory
: > > reserved for MS-DOS Protected Mode (DPMI) from "auto" to 16384 in the
: > > pif. There seems to have been some changes in the way memory is
: > > allocated or used in the patches.
: > >
: Nope no such luck. Oh well back to the drawing board.

Funny thing, I went to try NASREND in a Win95 DOS box last night and the
pif that worked in the morning wouldn't work. However, I told the pif
to not use any EMS (Epanded Memory). Along with giving it the max DPMI
it worked. I highly suspect that Win95 is hogging memory from your DOS
box. How much memory is in your system? I have 48meg. Are you getting
the DOS/4GW error report? If it is a DOS/4GW report, it probably is a
memory problem. Try playing with some of the other memory settings in
your pif.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **David Noona** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

>: : Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either
but I
>: : tried in a Dos window and it works fine

>: I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
>: Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
>: DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
>: to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

>I have found out how to run the Rendition version of N2 (patches 1 & 2)
>within a DOS box in Windows. I needed to specify the amount of memory
>reserved for MS-DOS Protected Mode (DPMI) from "auto" to 16384 in the
>pif. There seems to have been some changes in the way memory is
>allocated or used in the patches.

>Anyone else having trouble running Rendition in Win95 should give this a
>try.

This obviously works but I am suprised it is required. Before this solution
did N2 give a message on how much memory it had allocated?, should be about
a MB less than your physical ram. As 95 is being used as a DPMI server one
would have to suspect something in the Virtual Memory of 95 or lack of disk
space I am presuming that you have 64Mb ram or less.

Dave

by **Jay Taylo** » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

> >: : Have you tried it in a Dos window?Mine wouldn't work in Win95 either
> but I
> >: : tried in a Dos window and it works fine

> >: I have a "pif" setup to setup a DOS window. I won't work within the
> >: Win95 environment. Only if I setup the "pif" to shutdown and reboot in
> >: DOS mode. The funny thing is that I could swear that I used to be able
> >: to do it in a DOS window inside Win95.

> >I have found out how to run the Rendition version of N2 (patches 1 & 2)
> >within a DOS box in Windows. I needed to specify the amount of memory
> >reserved for MS-DOS Protected Mode (DPMI) from "auto" to 16384 in the
> >pif. There seems to have been some changes in the way memory is
> >allocated or used in the patches.

> >Anyone else having trouble running Rendition in Win95 should give this a
> >try.

> This obviously works but I am suprised it is required. Before this solution
> did N2 give a message on how much memory it had allocated?, should be about
> a MB less than your physical ram. As 95 is being used as a DPMI server one
> would have to suspect something in the Virtual Memory of 95 or lack of disk
> space I am presuming that you have 64Mb ram or less.

> Dave

I have had some other programs fail to install that sited lack of disk
space. The strange part is that I have a 5gig hard drive thats got close
to 3.5 gigs free. Its only partitioned into two drives (c\D) and I've
been told some programs may have trouble reading it correctly. Is it
possible that this could be the source of my troubles? The game
installed ok, so I thought it was reading the disk ok, but who knows.
Does N2 need free disk space to run once its installed? Why would this
happen in W95 and not DOS? Any answers? Anyone?

Jay Taylor

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