To Quote a quote manufactured by our Beloved Pythons....
"We Smirked a-bit."
:) actually quite a-bit....
dave henrie
To Quote a quote manufactured by our Beloved Pythons....
"We Smirked a-bit."
:) actually quite a-bit....
dave henrie
Nats
--
Nigel 'Nats' Stutt
"Its life, Jim, but not as we know it."
> I didn't really see anything wrong with what he did. He made one move,
from
> the racing line over to the right, and Alonso kept going with him instead
of
> switching back. No big deal. Just because it was Michael Schumacher
doesn't
> mean you have to make it into a controversial moment <g>
Kimi does it to Michael, everybody cheers. Juan Pablo does it to Michael,
everybody cheers. Michael does it to anybody, suddenly he's in league with
the FIA or the devil.
Come on guys, it's racing, it's F1. You're allowed to make one move from the
racing line to cover your position. Michael moved to the inside, and Alonso
should have gone to the outside but didn't. No big deal. Remember
Nurburgring-lite? Alonso moves for the inside at NGK at the same time as DC,
DC gets a bunch of the 'brown adrenaline' and spins off. Was Alonso at
fault? No.
Just lay off the guy a little, he is one of the very best drivers ever to
grace F1, and in 30 years time people will look back on him as such. Whether
you love the guy or hate him, you must concede that. For the moment, it's
debatable whether '2-wins' Montoya or '1-win' Raikkonen are capable of
beating him, even with better tyres and FIA rule changes in their favour,
but Ferrari and MS *** is running it's course, as all *** teams
do, so just sit back and enjoy the show while you still can.
I still hope one of our drivers wins the World Championship though <g>
>> John "sensitive Scot" Wallace
>I thought the whole point of wearing a kilt and no underwear was to
>*de*sensitise you? It's the celtic equivalent of circumcision.
Okay, I'm far from the archetypal Scottish hard man, but then I rarely
wear a kilt either, so I'm lacking desensitisation on both counts!
I think I recently regressed, much to the horror of my wife. Came back
from work to find me with the wheel bolted back to the desk and the
familiar engine sounds emanating from the office! :-)
Actually she's really great with it, but gives me a pretty good
slagging whenever she can!
Cheers!
John
It doesn't? Damn, I've been labouring under the weight of an enormous
misapprehension!
Actually naught to do with Michael, I truly thought it a bad move. He
made one move, then continued that move at a slower pace all the way
to the right, while Alonso was already getting alongside. Then moved
back and took a wider line for the corner.
Alonso _had_ him - you could see that already leaving Beckets, and I
dislike so defensive driving. Okay, Alonso should have "Manselled"
him, faked the moved, but it doesn't excuse what, for me, was an
unsportsmanlike block.
John
That's not the message that was posted, although it may be what you
chose to read.
When Michael is involved someone generally gets hurt. Hitting Montoya
in Malaysia, sticking HHF into a gravel trap in Canada, spinning DC in
Argentina, hitting JV - the examples are countless. In neither the
Kimi or the Montoya case was Michael closed down to the point where he
had no room - both drivers gave him the space he needed.
The difference is that Michael's defence tends to be TOO robust, and
he maintains a defence even when he should let it go.
I know you will disagree with that, and I have been on your side of
the fence defending some of the moves Senna made - it just depends
upon the tint to your glasses, and _everyone's_ glasses are tinted to
some extent.
I agree, Alonso should - but that doesn't mean Michael was right to
stick him on the grass. Hopefully though Alonso will know to either
fake Michael and go the other way or hold his line and take them both
off - Michael has a LOT more to lose than Alonso.
Question - if that were Montoya passing Michael in the same place
would Michael have done the same? If not, Michael must have known his
move was suspect, and dependent upon the compliance of the guy behind.
This year? Alonso braked 10 metres earlier than at any other lap, and
DC had to get the hell out of the way. At that speed an F1 car covers
10 metres VERY quickly, and I don't see what else DC could have done.
Was Alonso at fault - fault may not be the right word, but if faults
are being apportioned he'll be a lot closer to the front of the queue
than DC.
He has the best set of stats in F1, but I think that's all that's been
proven. Mika ran him about equal in their time together, JV also when
he had a great car. The same about Schumacher is that he's lacking
someone to not only push him onward and upward, but to act as a
benchmark.
Case in point - the one record he doesn't hold in F1 is the record
number of pole positions, yet he could well take that sometime in the
next couple of seasons. Yet his FIRST EVER pole position was the very
next race AFTER Senna died. So where has the competition been?
Cheers!
John
I think the new Hockenheim is pretty good myself, much more demanding from
our point of view (car setup). Before it was a case of having a good engine
and brakes which won't catch on fire...
Anybody who saw Montoya and Raikkonen drive half a lap of the new track side
by side last year knows why it has the potential to be much better than
before. I guess ITV missed that from their broadcast?
Andrew McP