rec.autos.simulators

> did i say they were?

> Schumacher

> > On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:40:10 +0200,

> > > And what the *** is this business about rear
> > >engined cars? haven't you guys herd of F50s, McLaren F1s, CLK-GTRs?

> > These cars are not rear-engine.

> > > Ofcourse
> > >a 911 will oversteer if u force it to, but in a turn it will understeer
> 99%
> > >percent of the time.

> > Bullshit.

> > >Anyways from when on do cars oversteer at 200km/h when
> > >attacking corners? I hardly ever see F1 cars oversteering, they spin
out
> > >quite often but when u have 800+ bhp it's not hard to spin out in 1,2
or
> > >even 3 gear.

> > F1 cars are not 'rear engined'.

> > You're an idiot.

> > --
> > * rrevved at mindspring dot com

>> On Thu, 12 Aug 1999 14:40:10 +0200,

>> > And what the *** is this business about rear
>> >engined cars? haven't you guys herd of F50s, McLaren F1s, CLK-GTRs?

>> These cars are not rear-engine.

>> > Ofcourse
>> >a 911 will oversteer if u force it to, but in a turn it will understeer
>99%
>> >percent of the time.

>> Bullshit.

>> >Anyways from when on do cars oversteer at 200km/h when
>> >attacking corners? I hardly ever see F1 cars oversteering, they spin out
>> >quite often but when u have 800+ bhp it's not hard to spin out in 1,2 or
>> >even 3 gear.

>> F1 cars are not 'rear engined'.

>> You're an idiot.

>> --
>> * rrevved at mindspring dot com

>UHHHH? When did i say my 528 oversteers frontly? And I don't know what the
>*** all of this mild understeer shit is, cause I don't buy a car
>dictonaries
>and learn all of the terms right off it, but I do know how to drive, and as
>soon as I get my 911 I am going to get it tuned up and enter an ameteur
>championship. (what the *** are u talking about? I finished high school
and
>I went to University and  studied economics and I have a job. So why the
>*** are u telling me to finish high school and go buy books on physics? If
>u go ask the real Schumacher he probably won't half all of the stuff u know
>about cars and it's physics but he's the best ***ing driver in the world
>much better than one of those stupid indianopolis 500 losers that race
>around an oval track for 500 laps.)

>Schumacher

>> : Have u ever oversteered a real car? I take my 528 to the track every
>weekend
>> : and I might not know about the chasis settings of cars but I can drive
>on
>> : tracks and for real, and since your last name sounds English
(manchester
>> : united coach), I guess you know about Snetterton, right? Where u get to
>> : drive a F335, a Viper, a 911, and a Lotus Esprit V8 for 30 minutes
each.
>> : Well i happened to have saved my money and went there. And I did drive
>the
>> : 911, and no it did not oversteer. Ofcourse it oversteered, but only
>rearly

>> Canadian. Living in Switzerland. No interest in professional football.
>> Porsches that I have driven include a late 60's 912, mid-70's Carrera,
>> mid-80's turbo and a Boxster.  Understeer to neutral on corner entry with
>> a careful foot on the throttle, oversteer if you lifted, and don't even
>> think of braking.  If they've tamed this with the '99 and its lovely
>> electronics, then that's a step forward for public road safety, but it's
>> taken away the one thing I enjoyed about the 911.

>> As for your last point, I can't imagine a car oversteering any other way
>> but "rearly".  I imagine your 528 understeers "frontly".

>> Have a nice day
>> Stephen

> It may be genious, but it doesn't eliminate the laws of physics, at a
> certain point the laws of physics will take over, but feel free to take
> that 99 model 911 of yours an ignore those laws if you feel like it,
> your choice

>Couple points:
><snip>
>4) Pay attention and read the posts before spouting off.  Several of the
>people who posted have said they have either
>    a) track time in a race-preped 911 aka Jan Verschueren whom I'd trust a
>hell of a lot more than a snot nosed kid<snip>

> How can you become a race driver when you don't know the
> difference between understeer and oversteer??

> Did any of you ever have had oversteer on the front of the car?
> hhhmmm.... not me.... not anyone....

> MiXer a.k.a Sjon Stigter

>> How can you become a race driver when you don't know the
>> difference between understeer and oversteer??

>> Did any of you ever have had oversteer on the front of the car?
>> hhhmmm.... not me.... not anyone....

>> MiXer a.k.a Sjon Stigter

>Hey, Sjon, seriously! Of course! It depends on the location of your
steering
>wheel.
>My steering wheel is near the front, and I can adjust it so that it's high:
>Oversteering.
>And I can lower the column down below my knees almost; Understeering.
>Front of both! Haven't you he_rd before????????

>See? "U" can have both!

><g>
>Nice trolling, this. And now for something completely different; a man with
3
>noses.

>Matt
>--
>---------------------------------
>Matthew Birger Knutsen

>The Art of Legends;
>http://www.gpl.electra.no

>Cheek Racing Cars;
>http://www.cheekracing.electra.no

> UHHHH? When did i say my 528 oversteers frontly? And I don't know what the
> *** all of this mild understeer shit is, cause I don't buy a car
> dictonaries
> and learn all of the terms right off it, but I do know how to drive, and as
> soon as I get my 911 I am going to get it tuned up and enter an ameteur
> championship. (what the *** are u talking about? I finished high school and
> I went to University and  studied economics and I have a job. So why the
> *** are u telling me to finish high school and go buy books on physics? If
> u go ask the real Schumacher he probably won't half all of the stuff u know
> about cars and it's physics but he's the best ***ing driver in the world
> much better than one of those stupid indianopolis 500 losers that race
> around an oval track for 500 laps.)

> Schumacher

> > : Have u ever oversteered a real car? I take my 528 to the track every
> weekend
> > : and I might not know about the chasis settings of cars but I can drive
> on
> > : tracks and for real, and since your last name sounds English (manchester
> > : united coach), I guess you know about Snetterton, right? Where u get to
> > : drive a F335, a Viper, a 911, and a Lotus Esprit V8 for 30 minutes each.
> > : Well i happened to have saved my money and went there. And I did drive
> the
> > : 911, and no it did not oversteer. Ofcourse it oversteered, but only
> rearly

> > Canadian. Living in Switzerland. No interest in professional football.
> > Porsches that I have driven include a late 60's 912, mid-70's Carrera,
> > mid-80's turbo and a Boxster.  Understeer to neutral on corner entry with
> > a careful foot on the throttle, oversteer if you lifted, and don't even
> > think of braking.  If they've tamed this with the '99 and its lovely
> > electronics, then that's a step forward for public road safety, but it's
> > taken away the one thing I enjoyed about the 911.

> > As for your last point, I can't imagine a car oversteering any other way
> > but "rearly".  I imagine your 528 understeers "frontly".

> > Have a nice day
> > Stephen

>  You have been playing with your big brother's matchbox cars too long and I'm
> sure your Dad will be pissed when he finds out you have been playing with his
> computer again.  Where did you pick up all those grown-up words from?  Grow up
> juvenile.  Paul

> I ve the F1 supersignal digital TV, you choose within 7 channels, (Mosaic,
> Main, Leader, Action, On Board, Pits, Data) with 2 audio channels
> (Commentators and Ambient Sound)

> I usually turn it to On Board when nothing serius is happenning (ie: at
the
> beginning of the Qualif, etc ...) and chose Original Audio, I can tell
you,
> F1 cars are 'always' oversteering ...

> btw:  someone interested in the Hakkinen crash at hockenheim On Board,
with
> Ambient Sound ?  ;) I will 'MPEG' it

> McKafre De La Rosa

> > bla bla bla ...
> > Anyways from when on do cars oversteer at 200km/h when
> >attacking corners? I hardly ever see F1 cars oversteering, they spin out
> >quite