But why would you want a company wasting time on that? Most of the
freaks can't even get multiplay right! Join a league - there's your career
mode right there pal! :) Why simulate what you can have on the net, in real
life, anyway?
Papy do simulate that - it's called a non FF wheel!
I don't know who to agree/disagree with here. Has GPL got too little
grip or has the TA mod for N2003 got too much? :) After spending the last 4
months with TA I'll bet I'd be one of the "GPL is too slippery" advocates. I
remember thinking TA was hooking up too well when I first started doing
laps, especially on the GPL tracks where direct comparison is possible. But
the technological differences are so great that I'm able to give the TA
physics the benefit of the doubt at least. Seems very realistic to me -
since times at Bathurst are 4 sec quicker than V8 Supercars, about exactly
what you'd expect from engines spinning about 500 rpm more and a little more
***, I'm very convinced. It's easy to jump to the conclusion that if it's
not as difficult as GPL then it's not as realistic.
> > Papyrus self-destructed. That's what it sounds like to me (although
no
> > doubt Vivendi's mismanagement of all their *** software divisions
was
> > part of the problem). EA's racing simulations/games are far more
> > approachable and don't just sell to gearheads and *** simulation
> > nuts, and as the many mods show, not all race simulation fans are
adverse
> > to EA's approach.
> Once the cash cow of Nascar sims was lost due to Sierra no longer having
the
> license there was no real use for Papyrus at Vivendi. There were all sorts
> of rumours they were to move into consoles.
Jason
> Grand Prix Legends, for example, has been a fixture on my series of
computer
> systems since The Day and yet I have only once raced online with it.
> Even now I am bashing it to death once again as I enjoy the 1965 mod.
> Geoff Crammond's "Grand Prix" series - up to and including GP3 - was also
a
> fixture yet the only leagues I ever took part in were off-line.
> So please don't generalise.
> Bruce.
> > Absolutely. An offline career mode is fun but without the online aspect
> sits
> > once completed it just sits on the shelf just like an FPS.
> Grand Prix Legends, for example, has been a fixture on my series of
computer
> systems since The Day and yet I have only once raced online with it.
> Even now I am bashing it to death once again as I enjoy the 1965 mod.
Rather than general offline racing against the AI. If that is decent enough
then that can be equally good fun, but most career mode games I have seen
don't have that quality of AI, the challenge is getting up the ladder. I am
generalising again so I'll stop there :)
If you can beat all these games on high difficulty, then you have my
respect (I seriously doubt you have beat GPL, though).
However, I have not beat them all on high difficulty. And my guess is
that it is quite hard to do so. So I can be safely sure there will always
be some challenge in the singleplayer games.
Most people cannot have a real life racing career. That's the most
obvious difference.
Also, why should I jump on the net? Can I be sure that I won't just end
up spoiling everybody else's fun? How would I be pitted against players of
similar experience and ability?
Maybe in the future they will be able to integrate a multiplayer game as
part of a career mode. It wouldn't be impossible. Motor City Online was a
failure, but that doesn't mean other efforts would be doomed.
That's not the same. FF doesn't change the fact there is no speed
sensitive steering, it just takes away the feedback.
> > But why would you want a company wasting time on that? Most of the
> > freaks can't even get multiplay right! Join a league - there's your
career
> > mode right there pal! :) Why simulate what you can have on the net, in
> real
> > life, anyway?
> Most people cannot have a real life racing career. That's the most
> obvious difference.
> Also, why should I jump on the net? Can I be sure that I won't just end
> up spoiling everybody else's fun? How would I be pitted against players
of
> similar experience and ability?
> Maybe in the future they will be able to integrate a multiplayer game as
> part of a career mode. It wouldn't be impossible. Motor City Online was
a
> failure, but that doesn't mean other efforts would be doomed.
> > Papy do simulate that - it's called a non FF wheel!
> That's not the same. FF doesn't change the fact there is no speed
> sensitive steering, it just takes away the feedback.
If you use common sense guidelines (just pretend you're racing on your
local, real-life kart track) I see no reason at all how or why you'd
"spoil everyone else's fun". Just give it a go and you'll be hooked in
no time. (now that is something you'd want to avoid if you value your
social life ;-)
cheers,
uwe
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GPL doesn't have a career mode though. Though it does have a championship,
and yes there is plenty of challenge to win the championship at the harder
levels. Personally I think relatively few would have played this for more
than 5 years without the online aspect, but I will no doubt be proven
wrong!
I have a tremendous time racing online with tthe TPTCC cars in RASCAR. Neil
and Ginger are always great competition, and the racing is usually extremely
close. Unfortunately we don't have enough TPTCC road races in RASCAR during
the Cup season. A really close race in F1C though is probably the biggest
thrill online for me though, since it's such a high paced experience, and
there's no room for error at all in the modern F1 cars.
.
I have to try harder. :-)
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David G Fisher
> Tried it last night and I think it feels much better. Going to go online
> later and see if I can find a decent race at WG. I'd like to try the '67
> cars with the new grip levels though since the cars are faster.
I just can't get into it. Maybe it is because my initial interest was
rallying and I don't have the right driving style. Maybe I just prefer the
feel of Papy sims. Maybe it is because I don't like FF. Perhaps I'll give it
another go...
Cheers
Tony
