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>You hear? Hows about actually watching the races this year
>then see how you feel about it.

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>>Jesse

>>>>No, idiots race in the rain. Real men wait for the jet dryers to do
their
>>>>job, and then run some warm-up laps...

>>>Well the good ole boys in Nascar certainly do this. But in F1
>>>you race in the rain if it is raining. Period.

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>>to do the puddles, have a random electric motor put on your pot that
>>overrides the steering input and brake input so that it will cut in and if
>>you are braking, it will randomly override the brakes and make them less
or
>>full so they lock up and you cant brake and with steering, when you are in
>>the turn and you hit a puddle, it makes you steer less, of course,
>randomly.
>>Also you can link it to the pressurized water supply andwhen it decides to
>>hit a puddle, the machine sprays out more water.
>>Jesse

>>>[Humor ON] I think I have the answer!

>>>I will explain.  Someone that is a savvy track editor, could lower the
>tire
>>>traction on a given track (thus giving you rain like driving conditions),
>>>The you as the drivers would have to come up with a setup like the
>>>following.

>>>1) Helmet (with goggles, you know, Like the type they used in 67)
>>>2) 1- variable speed fan
>>>3) 1 - variable pressure water supply
>>>4) Fog Machine (Optional)

>>>Here's how it works.  Set the fan in front of the your monitor (in such a
>>>place as to not block your view, but will  still blow in your face.)
Some
>>>how connect the variable speed fan up to the pot. on your brakes and gas
>>>pedals So, as you speed up the fan speeds up, as you brake the fan slows
>>>down.  I think you get the point.  Take you pressurized water supply and
>>>direct it into the back of the fan.  This should spray water on your face
>>at
>>>variable speeds, thus giving you the sensation of rain as you drive.  You
>>>should have a method of adjusting how much water in sprayed into the fan
>>>(wouldn't want to much, wouldn't want in to be "raining" cats-and-dogs).
>>>Got your Helmet on? How about the goggles?  Now that your goggles are
>>fogged
>>>up, go run a few laps at the Ring.  At the same time, make sure you keep
>>>your goggles clear so you can see where you are going.  For added
realism,
>>>add a little fog to the setup.

>>>Still working on the standing water puddles on the track, if I come up
>with

>>>an answer, I will let you guys know.

>>>Hey, Life begins at 180mph! (and ends when it starts to rain!)

>>>[Humor OFF]

>>>Do not hold me responsible for shorted keyboards and wheels/pedals
combos,
>>>or any other electrical equipment they you might have damaged.

>Hmm,
>quote...

>IMHO any Formula One game is total
>shit without weather effects

>thats starting a discussion alright.  I believe you just called grand prix
>legends, uhhh, total shit.

>Did they actually race in the rain?

>Thad

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> Yes I also thought about the rain effect in GPL.

> I think that there's 2 main thing that would need to be modeled in the game
> engine.  There's the physical rain engine, and the graphical game engine.

> For me the physical engine would mean the correct coefficient of friction on
> each parameter (track, concrete, grass, etc..).   Since Im sure they
> wouldn't want to model the full track equally but portions of it, it would
> need to model wind, windspeed, atmospherical pression, rain intensity (rain
> per square meters in the air AND on the track).  For me it would need a
> great model of the drying track effects.  Calculate how the track, grass,
> etc..   asborb the water, dependant on also how much "rain per square meter"
> there is on that XYZ portion of the track.

>"Was it Prost who was involved in Pironi's accident? I can't remember,
>but someone launched Pironi which essentially ended his career."

>Right, in practice at Hockenheim ' 82.  A Saturday afternoon wet practice.
>Pironi had already gotten pole during the dry Friday run, and was working
on
>a wet set-up when he and Prost came together.

>Fact? My eyes doth deceive me! All that camber, those bumps, those
>elevations - all products of my fevered imagination.