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Chuck Stuar

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by Chuck Stuar » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

This should ease everyone's pain. You guys who have been crying about this
being illegal please don't download it. (Fat chance). This is NOT the
shareware track.

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Charlie Heat

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by Charlie Heat » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00


>This should ease everyone's pain. You guys who have been crying about this
>being illegal please don't download it. (Fat chance). This is NOT the
>shareware track.

>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/6576/index.html

I'm going to have to excuse myself from this newsgroup while it is being
used as a clearing house for copyrighted works.  When there are blantant
copyright violations, as I've seen here, I have to pass the information on
to legal, and that just isn't a role I care to take.

I'll check back in here in a few weeks.  Cheers-

Charlie Heath / Papyrus

TOlson94

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by TOlson94 » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

Well, it is illegal what you are doing, and anyone from Papryus that read
the message you posted can nail you for it.

Rob Golle

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by Rob Golle » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

I need help in deciding on a new video card.  I want to increase
the frame rates for N2, ICR2 and GP2, but the card still has to perform
well for other apps.  I currently have an ATI graphics Xpression but I'm
not impressed with the speed, though it has been very stable.
Also, I need to be able to support Win95 and a little OS2; I'd like
1024x768x64M under Win95.  I know that the Rendition card does not
support OS/2, but it should run in 640x480 which will be (I think)
acceptable for what I need to do.  It also appears that the Rendition
card can not run 1024x768x64M either, only up to 65K colors at that
resolution.

  I've seen read a lot of discussions regarding the Renditions
performance running N2 (my main sim), but little on the Mystique's.
How does the Mystique stack up?  I'm leaning towards the Matrox card
due to it's operating system support and color depth, but if I'll only
be able to run N2 will all graphics on at 20fps (P166/32M), then I may
sway the other way :)

  Any other considerations or comments?

Thanks,
Rob

Berg

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by Berg » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00



>>This should ease everyone's pain. You guys who have been crying about this
>>being illegal please don't download it. (Fat chance). This is NOT the
>>shareware track.

>>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/6576/index.html

>I'm going to have to excuse myself from this newsgroup while it is being
>used as a clearing house for copyrighted works.  When there are blantant
>copyright violations, as I've seen here, I have to pass the information on
>to legal, and that just isn't a role I care to take.

>I'll check back in here in a few weeks.  Cheers-

>Charlie Heath / Papyrus

Not so fast Charlie.  I admit I checked out his page, I couldn't
believe someone would actually do it, and what I thought was indeed
the case...he is bullshiting everyone.
rrevv

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by rrevv » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00


>I need help in deciding on a new video card.  I want to increase
>the frame rates for N2, ICR2 and GP2, but the card still has to perform
>well for other apps.  I currently have an ATI graphics Xpression but I'm
>not impressed with the speed, though it has been very stable.
>Also, I need to be able to support Win95 and a little OS2; I'd like
>1024x768x64M under Win95.  I know that the Rendition card does not
>support OS/2, but it should run in 640x480 which will be (I think)
>acceptable for what I need to do.  It also appears that the Rendition
>card can not run 1024x768x64M either, only up to 65K colors at that
>resolution.

>  I've seen read a lot of discussions regarding the Renditions
>performance running N2 (my main sim), but little on the Mystique's.
>How does the Mystique stack up?  I'm leaning towards the Matrox card
>due to it's operating system support and color depth, but if I'll only
>be able to run N2 will all graphics on at 20fps (P166/32M), then I may
>sway the other way :)

>  Any other considerations or comments?

>Thanks,
>Rob

Buy an ABIT IT5H motherboard ($135), install your existing
devices on the board and then overclock your P166 to
3x75 (225 mhz), 2.5x75 (187.5) or 2x83 .
After that, hang on......................

See sysdoc.pair.com for more info.......


David Spark

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by David Spark » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00


[URL deleted]

This sort of reminds me of the bank robber who wrote a holdup note on the
back of his own deposit slip. Or the guys who tried to break open an ATM by
hooking a chain to the back bumper of their pickup truck, ripping the
bumper off and leaving it at the scene of the crime with the license plate
still attached.

Dave Sparks
IWCCCARS Project: http://www.theuspits.com/iwcccars
Late Night League: http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html
Hawaii Handle: davids

Barton S. Brow

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by Barton S. Brow » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00


> I'm going to have to excuse myself from this newsgroup while it is being
> used as a clearing house for copyrighted works.  When there are blantant
> copyright violations, as I've seen here, I have to pass the information on
> to legal, and that just isn't a role I care to take.

> I'll check back in here in a few weeks.  Cheers-

> Charlie Heath / Papyrus

Well, that's ONE way to flush the Papyrus lurkers out of the woodwork.
Not a GOOD way, but it IS one way...

Bart brown

Dirtrac

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by Dirtrac » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00




> >>This should ease everyone's pain. You guys who have been crying about this
> >>being illegal please don't download it. (Fat chance). This is NOT the
> >>shareware track.

> >>http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/6576/index.html

> >I'm going to have to excuse myself from this newsgroup while it is being
> >used as a clearing house for copyrighted works.  When there are blantant
> >copyright violations, as I've seen here, I have to pass the information on
> >to legal, and that just isn't a role I care to take.

> >I'll check back in here in a few weeks.  Cheers-

> >Charlie Heath / Papyrus

> Not so fast Charlie.  I admit I checked out his page, I couldn't
> believe someone would actually do it, and what I thought was indeed
> the case...he is bullshiting everyone.

 You must of got there after 12 am .
Matt

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by Matt » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00


> I need help in deciding on a new video card.  I want to increase
> the frame rates for N2, ICR2 and GP2, but the card still has to perform
> well for other apps.  I currently have an ATI graphics Xpression but I'm
> not impressed with the speed, though it has been very stable.
> Also, I need to be able to support Win95 and a little OS2; I'd like
> 1024x768x64M under Win95.  I know that the Rendition card does not
> support OS/2, but it should run in 640x480 which will be (I think)
> acceptable for what I need to do.  It also appears that the Rendition
> card can not run 1024x768x64M either, only up to 65K colors at that
> resolution.

>   I've seen read a lot of discussions regarding the Renditions
> performance running N2 (my main sim), but little on the Mystique's.
> How does the Mystique stack up?  I'm leaning towards the Matrox card
> due to it's operating system support and color depth, but if I'll only
> be able to run N2 will all graphics on at 20fps (P166/32M), then I may
> sway the other way :)

>   Any other considerations or comments?

> Thanks,
> Rob

I have the 4MB version of the Mystique and love it.  I could see no
difference in N2 between my old Diamond and my Mystique.  I have a P166,
32mb ram, 2x CD.  I have done the max install.  In NFS2, which everyone
seems to hate, I get pretty good frame rates.  I do not have anything
that will measure the frame rates.  All I can say is go to some place
like Best Buy and buy the card and try it.  If it meets your
expectations keep it, and if not return it and get your money back.

I do not know about the 1024x768x64M, but it will do 16M colors at
1024x768.  It gives options for 16, 24, and 32-bit color pallets.  I do
not know if that helps you or not.

matt
--



Vic Lombard

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by Vic Lombard » Thu, 29 May 1997 04:00:00

 >   I've seen read a lot of discussions regarding the Renditions
You can get the specs on their supported resolutions at www.matrox.com.

I love the 4MB Mystique I have. My P133, 32MB RAM runs N2 fine with all on
but grass/asphalt on. ICR2 runs unbelievably quick with everything on. Some
N2 tracks will let me get away with running all features on. Performance in
DOS games is very fast. Win95 performance is good. If you want the
Rendition graphics, though, go with the Rendition boards. However, the
Mystique is a very solid card and I am happy with it.  

JR

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by JR » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

Right on Charlie!!!! 'Bout time someone starts to shovel up the s**t in
here,

Regards,

JR
Black Hole Motorsports




> >This should ease everyone's pain. You guys who have been crying about
this
> >being illegal please don't download it. (Fat chance). This is NOT the
> >shareware track.

> >http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/Downs/6576/index.html

> I'm going to have to excuse myself from this newsgroup while it is being
> used as a clearing house for copyrighted works.  When there are blantant
> copyright violations, as I've seen here, I have to pass the information
on
> to legal, and that just isn't a role I care to take.

> I'll check back in here in a few weeks.  Cheers-

> Charlie Heath / Papyrus

John Wallac

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by John Wallac » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00


Simply speaking, forget the Mystique.

Why? Well, due to the vagaries of GP2's graphics engine it is one of the
few games where a new video card makes minimal difference (ironically the
one game that really needs a kick in the pants too). That rules GP2 out of
the equation. For NASCAR2 and ICR2 they Mystique falls _well_ short of what
the Rendition can do, since the Rendition offers true 3D support for these
games. Believe me, the 3D version of ICR2 is probably the smoothest and
best looking sim available just now, better looking than Psygnosis' "F1" in
my opinion. The Rendition cards gives smoooooooooth framerates on a P-166
thanks to the hardware acceleration, and is pretty good in Win95 and other
SVGA games also.

--
Cheers!
John (SRN-Europe)
(Remove "NOSPAM" from address before replying...)

Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

Charlie has been posting here ever since Jim left Papyrus, so it has hardly
been necessary to "flush him out".

In my opinion, as he is an employee of a company that is having it's
product hacked, slashed and bashed, he has taken the morally-correct step
in declining to post to this NG.
--
Bruce
----
"To be or not to be?  Well, I'd rather 'be', if you don't mind!"

Pete Lath

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by Pete Lath » Fri, 30 May 1997 04:00:00

On Thu, 29 May 1997 09:25:09 GMT, "John Wallace"



>> I need help in deciding on a new video card.  I want to increase
>> the frame rates for N2, ICR2 and GP2, but the card still has to perform
>> well for other apps.

>Simply speaking, forget the Mystique.

>Why? Well, due to the vagaries of GP2's graphics engine it is one of the
>few games where a new video card makes minimal difference (ironically the
>one game that really needs a kick in the pants too). That rules GP2 out of
>the equation. For NASCAR2 and ICR2 they Mystique falls _well_ short of what
>the Rendition can do, since the Rendition offers true 3D support for these
>games. Believe me, the 3D version of ICR2 is probably the smoothest and
>best looking sim available just now, better looking than Psygnosis' "F1" in
>my opinion. The Rendition cards gives smoooooooooth framerates on a P-166
>thanks to the hardware acceleration, and is pretty good in Win95 and other
>SVGA games also.

What you are saying appears to be true _BUT_ it looks like the
Mystique offers better performance under DirectX (especially Direct3D)
than any other cards which would go a long way to explaining why a
number of game developers have now declared it the development
platform of choice.  Now that there is a generic API which holds
together quite well (Moto Racer being an example of this) I would
expect more games to be coming out under Windows 95.

If you want to look to the past and go for DOS games that are written
or patched for a specific card then I would suggest a Rendition or
other well supported card.  If you want to look to the future of games
running under Direct3D in Windows 95 then I would currently suggest
the Mystique 4Mb which performs excellently.

I'm not an expert (which may be all too apparent!!) but these are just
my opinions.

Cheers ..... Pete


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