rec.autos.simulators

by **mrTV** » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 03:58:18

Greetings......

Here's my system.....

P3 800
ATI Radeon 64meg
SB Live!

I've raced since N2...(not online, I don't know really how to connect, etc)

I installed N4, works great.

Here's my beefs, perhaps I'm not the only one experiencing this...perhaps I
am...but at this point, I'm ready to uninstall and fire it in the trash.

1) What's with your car barely gripping the track?
In N2 and N3...I had no problems with taking it easy till your tires
warm up, but at least the car held it's own on the surface. With this
N4...the f**ker starts to slide the second you hit the gas leavin' the pits.
Daytona and Tally seem fine....
I've read ad naseum that "it's realistic"...but I have a HARD time believing
that every track is basically an asphalt skating rink. The car's 3400 lbs
for cryin' out loud! I really think that PAPY should address this. After
all, it's a GAME, not a training tool to go drivin' at Darlington for shits
n giggles.

2) Where's all the set-ups?
With N2 and N3...you could download set-ups til the cows come home. I've
been able to find a few setups, but nowhere near the amout of authors and
sites.

2.5) Where's all the cars?
Jeez...I had a new car everyday to drive with N3. With N4, I get #83
Papyrus. Someone point me in the direction of a real happenin' fictional
car site! PLEASE!

3) What's with this annoying pull to the left?
See the final sentence of question 1......

4) Why is SIM too hard and ARCADE too crappy?
Basically, I try SIM mode, and forget about it. Car slides all
over..even with a tweaked setup, etc. I try ARCADE mode...and basically,
it's N3 sim at 95%. With ARCADE, your stuck with whatever setup it gives ya.
But the AI sure as hell whips your ass. Car still slides all over.
Again...PAPY should address this...make ARCADE mode mirror the SIM mode, but
adjust the following (a) grip the track like glue, or at least minimal
sliding (b) full race weekend options (c) adjustable AI (d) adjustable
player's car, but not full sim...basic tweaks to make it faster, etc.

I bought Nascar Heat, and was happy with it, but it was thrown out the
second I got N4 home. Now I'm beginning to think I should have kept it. I
would have missed Pocono and Indy, though......

I'm not lookin' to trash N4...and I don't want a bunch of flamin'. I'm
just hoping that I can get some advice to make N4 ENJOYABLE to this
medium-skilled racer. It's a GAME I WANT to enjoy, not get frustrated with.
Leave the frustrating real-life stuff to the guys that do it for a living
every Sunday.......

Thanks all......I appreciate any help posted here......

Tony

by **Dog-Le** » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:58:40

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> Greetings......

> Here's my system.....

> P3 800
> ATI Radeon 64meg
> SB Live!

> I've raced since N2...(not online, I don't know really how to connect,
etc)

> I installed N4, works great.

> Here's my beefs, perhaps I'm not the only one experiencing this...perhaps
I
> am...but at this point, I'm ready to uninstall and fire it in the trash.

> 1) What's with your car barely gripping the track?
> In N2 and N3...I had no problems with taking it easy till your tires
> warm up, but at least the car held it's own on the surface. With this
> N4...the f**ker starts to slide the second you hit the gas leavin' the
pits.
> Daytona and Tally seem fine....
> I've read ad naseum that "it's realistic"...but I have a HARD time
believing
> that every track is basically an asphalt skating rink. The car's 3400 lbs
> for cryin' out loud! I really think that PAPY should address this. After
> all, it's a GAME, not a training tool to go drivin' at Darlington for
shits
> n giggles.

> 2) Where's all the set-ups?
> With N2 and N3...you could download set-ups til the cows come home.
I've
> been able to find a few setups, but nowhere near the amout of authors and
> sites.

> 2.5) Where's all the cars?
> Jeez...I had a new car everyday to drive with N3. With N4, I get #83
> Papyrus. Someone point me in the direction of a real happenin' fictional
> car site! PLEASE!

> 3) What's with this annoying pull to the left?
> See the final sentence of question 1......

> 4) Why is SIM too hard and ARCADE too crappy?
> Basically, I try SIM mode, and forget about it. Car slides all
> over..even with a tweaked setup, etc. I try ARCADE mode...and basically,
> it's N3 sim at 95%. With ARCADE, your stuck with whatever setup it gives
ya.
> But the AI sure as hell whips your ass. Car still slides all over.
> Again...PAPY should address this...make ARCADE mode mirror the SIM mode,
but
> adjust the following (a) grip the track like glue, or at least minimal
> sliding (b) full race weekend options (c) adjustable AI (d) adjustable
> player's car, but not full sim...basic tweaks to make it faster, etc.

> I bought Nascar Heat, and was happy with it, but it was thrown out the
> second I got N4 home. Now I'm beginning to think I should have kept it. I
> would have missed Pocono and Indy, though......

> I'm not lookin' to trash N4...and I don't want a bunch of flamin'.
I'm
> just hoping that I can get some advice to make N4 ENJOYABLE to this
> medium-skilled racer. It's a GAME I WANT to enjoy, not get frustrated
with.
> Leave the frustrating real-life stuff to the guys that do it for a living
> every Sunday.......

> Thanks all......I appreciate any help posted here......

> Tony

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by **George Lewi** » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 06:58:39

Hi Tony,

The reason the tires are sliding all over the place is the sheer
amount of horsepower. Driving a racecar is not hard, but it isn't
like driving a street car either.

N4 has just made that part of the car more realistic...

As for the setups, they'll appear in time. Rodney Arndt has a GREAT
setup guide available on the internet that is worth checking out. If
you're willing to take the time it takes to learn how to set your car
up, you'll NEVER need a setup from anyone ever again. However, you
can go to Black Hole Motorsports website. they have some N4 setups.

The pitwagon is a good place to pick up some cars...

If you need the URLs, let me know. I'm not on the system with the
links at the moment, I apologize for that.

I have never tried arcade mode in any of the Nascar Racing versions,
so I have no way of helping you out there...

You didn't mention your wheel and pedals - what kind do you use? If
you don't have wheel/pedals, it's a good idea to get some!

>Greetings......

>Here's my system.....

>P3 800
>ATI Radeon 64meg
>SB Live!

>I've raced since N2...(not online, I don't know really how to connect, etc)

>I installed N4, works great.

>Here's my beefs, perhaps I'm not the only one experiencing this...perhaps I
>am...but at this point, I'm ready to uninstall and fire it in the trash.

>1) What's with your car barely gripping the track?
> In N2 and N3...I had no problems with taking it easy till your tires
>warm up, but at least the car held it's own on the surface. With this
>N4...the f**ker starts to slide the second you hit the gas leavin' the pits.
>Daytona and Tally seem fine....
>I've read ad naseum that "it's realistic"...but I have a HARD time believing
>that every track is basically an asphalt skating rink. The car's 3400 lbs
>for cryin' out loud! I really think that PAPY should address this. After
>all, it's a GAME, not a training tool to go drivin' at Darlington for shits
>n giggles.

>2) Where's all the set-ups?
> With N2 and N3...you could download set-ups til the cows come home. I've
>been able to find a few setups, but nowhere near the amout of authors and
>sites.

>2.5) Where's all the cars?
> Jeez...I had a new car everyday to drive with N3. With N4, I get #83
>Papyrus. Someone point me in the direction of a real happenin' fictional
>car site! PLEASE!

>3) What's with this annoying pull to the left?
> See the final sentence of question 1......

>4) Why is SIM too hard and ARCADE too crappy?
> Basically, I try SIM mode, and forget about it. Car slides all
>over..even with a tweaked setup, etc. I try ARCADE mode...and basically,
>it's N3 sim at 95%. With ARCADE, your stuck with whatever setup it gives ya.
>But the AI sure as hell whips your ass. Car still slides all over.
>Again...PAPY should address this...make ARCADE mode mirror the SIM mode, but
>adjust the following (a) grip the track like glue, or at least minimal
>sliding (b) full race weekend options (c) adjustable AI (d) adjustable
>player's car, but not full sim...basic tweaks to make it faster, etc.

> I bought Nascar Heat, and was happy with it, but it was thrown out the
>second I got N4 home. Now I'm beginning to think I should have kept it. I
>would have missed Pocono and Indy, though......

> I'm not lookin' to trash N4...and I don't want a bunch of flamin'. I'm
>just hoping that I can get some advice to make N4 ENJOYABLE to this
>medium-skilled racer. It's a GAME I WANT to enjoy, not get frustrated with.
>Leave the frustrating real-life stuff to the guys that do it for a living
>every Sunday.......

> Thanks all......I appreciate any help posted here......

> Tony

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by **Kevin Anderso** » Sun, 18 Mar 2001 04:31:47

Just run some practice. I have been racing since it was released. I have no
problem with grip, Car feels completely under control. I also don't even
notice the pull to the left unless I let go of wheel.

--
Kevin Anderson