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Framerate comparison

Eldre

Framerate comparison

by Eldre » Sun, 09 May 2004 01:08:04

Ok, I tried my Ti4600 in my other computer, and ran several tests.  I ran the
benchmark on 3dMark2001.  I also ran several games with graphics full, and
1024x768 resolution.

Computer 1(Athlon 1.2G, 384mb ram, win98se)
3dmark - 4271

GTR fps(sitting in pits) - 29

F1C(at pit exit)
San Marino - 31
Spa - 42

N2K3 TPTCC(in pits)
WG (boot) - 15
Spa - 18
Nurburgring - 22

Computer 2( AMD 1800XP, 512mb ram, win98se)

3dmark - 5463

GTR - 45

F1C
San Marino - 38
Spa - 55

Didn't get a chance to test N2k3 yet on computer 2, but I would expect a
similar increase in fps.  Question is, are the 3dmark benchmark and game
framerates consistent with a computer of the second computer's configuration?
Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Leo Landma

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by Leo Landma » Sun, 09 May 2004 08:05:15

My 2000XP with the same card and OS gives me around 10000 3Dmarks 2001
Looks like your GF4 is sub par in both systems.

Bye,
Leo

Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 09 May 2004 09:12:36

I wonder why mine would be so much lower...bad card?  Well, it's out of
warranty now, dammit.  Probably defective from the start, but I just didn't
realize it.
Argh...the hits just KEEP on coming... :-(

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John Smit

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by John Smit » Sun, 09 May 2004 09:46:35


I had simular problems when I installed my gf4 4200. Try det. destroyer to
get rid of any old drivers. Then re-install new drivers, also try and reload
direct x. I get over 10000 3dmarks 2001 with an athalon 2100xp. You need a
good power supply too, 350w or better..

Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 09 May 2004 10:04:17

It isn't old drivers - I did a fresh install a few weeks back on a new drive in
the same machine.  I got the same values for N2k3 and 3Dmark.

But...<checks inside computer>...this power supply is only 300w...<checks
computer 2>...as is the other one.  WTF - could that be slowing down the
computers?  That doesn't make any sense...
I think I have another p/s around here somewhere.  I got one to replace for
someone and he ended up not needing it.  I just have to FIND the damn thing...

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bhoeni

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by bhoeni » Sun, 09 May 2004 10:13:51

Eldred,  I have an ATI videocard, so giving you my 3DMark score would be
meaningless.  However, I do know that 3DMark2001 yields much higher scores than the
newer version (3DMark2003?).  Are you and the others running the same benchmark
program?  Before you jump to conclusions, make sure that you're comparing apples to
apples.......

Bert


> >I had simular problems when I installed my gf4 4200. Try det. destroyer to
> >get rid of any old drivers. Then re-install new drivers, also try and reload
> >direct x. I get over 10000 3dmarks 2001 with an athalon 2100xp. You need a
> >good power supply too, 350w or better..

> It isn't old drivers - I did a fresh install a few weeks back on a new drive in
> the same machine.  I got the same values for N2k3 and 3Dmark.

> But...<checks inside computer>...this power supply is only 300w...<checks
> computer 2>...as is the other one.  WTF - could that be slowing down the
> computers?  That doesn't make any sense...
> I think I have another p/s around here somewhere.  I got one to replace for
> someone and he ended up not needing it.  I just have to FIND the damn thing...

> Eldred
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Peter Ive

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by Peter Ive » Sun, 09 May 2004 10:28:49



What AGP setting is it at.  x2, x4, x8?  Perhaps that's where your
slowdown is occurring.
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straito

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by straito » Sun, 09 May 2004 14:23:02

AA off  ?
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> Eldred,  I have an ATI videocard, so giving you my 3DMark score would be
> meaningless.  However, I do know that 3DMark2001 yields much higher scores
than the
> newer version (3DMark2003?).  Are you and the others running the same
benchmark
> program?  Before you jump to conclusions, make sure that you're comparing
apples to
> apples.......

> Bert


> > >I had simular problems when I installed my gf4 4200. Try det. destroyer
to
> > >get rid of any old drivers. Then re-install new drivers, also try and
reload
> > >direct x. I get over 10000 3dmarks 2001 with an athalon 2100xp. You
need a
> > >good power supply too, 350w or better..

> > It isn't old drivers - I did a fresh install a few weeks back on a new
drive in
> > the same machine.  I got the same values for N2k3 and 3Dmark.

> > But...<checks inside computer>...this power supply is only
300w...<checks
> > computer 2>...as is the other one.  WTF - could that be slowing down the
> > computers?  That doesn't make any sense...
> > I think I have another p/s around here somewhere.  I got one to replace
for
> > someone and he ended up not needing it.  I just have to FIND the damn
thing...

> > Eldred
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 09 May 2004 20:46:30

Dunno - where's that setting?

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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 09 May 2004 20:54:16

Yes.
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 09 May 2004 20:53:55

Yep, we're both running 3Dmark 2001.

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Peter Ive

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by Peter Ive » Sun, 09 May 2004 22:10:33



You need to get hold of some software that will display that info.
Powerstrip is one such generic progam that works with most types of
cards.  For ATI cards Rage 3D Tweak will work, but to find the info is
more complicated.  You need to right-click on ATI Icon and select
settings>>ATI display settings>>then select the options tab and then
click on details.   You should find the info there.

I'm sure there's other software that will also provide this info,
though.
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Andi Col

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by Andi Col » Sun, 09 May 2004 22:23:02

Eldred,

Have you updated your motherboard drivers? Latest Intel .inf files, the VIA
4in1 or whatever SIS use as necessary.

Andi.

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Biz

Framerate comparison

by Biz » Mon, 10 May 2004 00:47:30


I thought you were a computer guy at UofM, or somewhere around there?

Leo Landma

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by Leo Landma » Mon, 10 May 2004 05:16:13

As is mine, and my GF4 runs fine. Other causes are much more likely to start
with.

Right click on your desktop, click on properties, click on the tab of your
video card. Somewhere in there you'll find the AGP settings. Check 4xAGP.

If you have an older Asus mobo, you may need the AMD AGP-driver, not the VIA
one.

Alternatively, go to a LAN meeting and have the boys sort it out <g>

Bye,
Leo


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