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Eric

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by Eric » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

First off...I know its spelled brakes, I made a mistake.
Secondly, I know lime rock is a real-life race track...9/10 people don't.
Finally, I know there is going to be more then one track in the full
version, but including only a single crappy track in a demo is a waste of
time to download. If it takes 2 hours for the average home user connection
to get, and only one track is available, the game is not worthy of a higher
score. If you're going to e-mail me again, please do not make yourself sound
like an idiot by trying to insult my intelligence. What you're missing here
is that the demo was reviewed from the point of view of the average gamer,
not racing or sim fans/experts. Also, I made it clear in the review if you
had actually read it, that it is a worthy download for anyone who is into
sim or racing games.
Thanks for your input...you've changed my whole view on games, really.
-Eric Rasmussen

Daxe Rexfor

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by Daxe Rexfor » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00


> First off...I know its spelled brakes, I made a

mistake.

Twice in the same review?  Nope.  You didn't know
how to spell it.  I guess you (and your editor)
have never heard of proofreading, either.

track...9/10 people don't.

I don't think you should be addressing the general
public, you should be addressing people who would
be interested in the demo, namely race game/sim
fans who probably know about Lime Rock at a rate
greater than 10% of their number.

one track in the full
track in a demo is a waste of
average home user connection
game is not worthy of a higher

It took me 2 hours to download and I have no
trouble with the fact that there is only one track
because it's a fun track to drive. If you knew how
to drive or cared a whit about racing sims/games
you could potentially enjoy it also.  As far as I
can tell, that one track takes up about 3 meg of
data.  If you are ***ing about 2 hours for one
track, are you not going to *** about 2 1/2
hours for 3 tracks?  No-one has picked on your
scoring of the game, either.  .

intelligence.

I don't have to insult your intelligence, you do a
fine job of making yourself look like an idiot.  I
pointed out that you have no business reviewing
this type of demo because you have no ability to
assess it in the areas that interest the people
who are likely to be interested in it.  I stand by
that and I seriously doubt anyone but you is going
to think any differently.  I'll be reading r.a.s.
waiting for someone to leap to your defense for
this ridiculous review.

view of the average gamer,
clear in the review if you
download for anyone who is into

Please post the part of the review where that is
stated, clearly or any other way.  I read it very
thoroughly and saw nothing even suggesting that.

In addition, what is the sense in reviewing a game
from the point of view of someone who
doesn't/isn't going to care about it?  I
personally find first-person shooters to be a
b***an unpleasant form of PC game.  Do I think
reviewers should gear their reviews to me by
writing:

    "You get to be some guy who runs around
someplace and shoots other things.  You can get
some different guns that all seem to shoot OK but
I couldn't aim one of them and got bored.  There
were adjustments for some things in the game but I
didn't understand them so maybe they will be
useful to you if you do.  I tried to find someone
to play multiplayer with me, but they said the
game was stupid, so I stopped trying."

C'mon..who is this review supposed to inform?  It
was absolute, pointless ***and if I were you I
would be embarrassed to put my name on it.  I do
give you credit for coming here and letting us
beat you up, though.

view on games, really.

Patronizing, too.  What a swell guy.

~daxe

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Steve Ferguso

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by Steve Ferguso » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

This guy better hope he never gets the chance to review a WWII combat
flight sim.  The propellor heads are a pretty demanding bunch when it
comes to realism, and their tolerance of bad reviews is pretty low.  Makes
all the RAS folks look pretty tame in comparison.

Stephen

Nathan Wo

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by Nathan Wo » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>First off...I know its spelled brakes, I made a mistake.

Never used a spell check?

So tell them instead of saying "wherever the hell that may be".

Ultimate Race Pro, F1 Racing Simulation, Johnny Herbert Grand Prix,
TOCA2, TOCA, all had one track only too. I cant recall any racing game
which has multiple tracks to race on in the DEMO.

The "average" gamer will want to use his brakes for a start. Maybe you
should try getting a licence and driving a real car to get a feel for
what racing sims/games are all about? Perhaps you would feel better
when someone produces a bumper-car ride simulator so you would never
have to lift your foot off the gas!

>not racing or sim fans/experts. Also, I made it clear in the review if you
>had actually read it, that it is a worthy download for anyone who is into
>sim or racing games.


 "It will have replay value if you're into customizing cars, assuming
you know what you're doing. "
And a little bit later
"You get the idea... but for any racing fan this game does have a lot
to offer."

I hardly think thats making it clear, especially when its buried
amongst your derogatory comments about having "only one track" and
***ing about the size of the file.

>Thanks for your input...you've changed my whole view on games, really.
>-Eric Rasmussen


And you've given us a good reason NOT to go to 3d***.net again!

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Remco Moe

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by Remco Moe » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00


>Ultimate Race Pro, F1 Racing Simulation, Johnny Herbert Grand Prix,
>TOCA2, TOCA, all had one track only too. I cant recall any racing game
>which has multiple tracks to race on in the DEMO.

Hmmm, I believe the latest Cart:PR demo had 2 tracks. :-)

Remco

Steve Ferguso

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by Steve Ferguso » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

One of the Nascar 2 demos allowed the choice of Atlanta or the Glen.  Ah,
trivia... it's so... so... trivial.

Stephen


:>Ultimate Race Pro, F1 Racing Simulation, Johnny Herbert Grand Prix,
:>TOCA2, TOCA, all had one track only too. I cant recall any racing game
:>which has multiple tracks to race on in the DEMO.

: Hmmm, I believe the latest Cart:PR demo had 2 tracks. :-)

: Remco

Brian Shor

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by Brian Shor » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00



> >First off...I know its spelled brakes, I made a mistake.

> Never used a spell check?

Unfortunately, this was a case a spell checker wouldnt catch, since he
spelled it breaks, which is a real word... look people, you STILL need to do
manual proofreading, even with todays technology!

Brian Short

schwab

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by schwab » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

LOL! How true, how true! Let's see... another one you see in "gearhead"
posts is 'lose' and 'loose' used often and incorrectly in place of one
another... and spellcheck *correctly* recognizes them as being spelled
correctly. Usage is another matter....

But... many of the folks posting here are not native English speakers,
so they get my respect and understanding if not correct... I mean, if I
tried posting in the two language I *know* (Spanish and German), I would
*** the grammar, etc.

Now, for Brits, Aussies and Americans to make "breaking" mistakes, well,
come on guys... you can do better.

--Dave





> > >First off...I know its spelled brakes, I made a mistake.

> > Never used a spell check?

> Unfortunately, this was a case a spell checker wouldnt catch, since he
> spelled it breaks, which is a real word... look people, you STILL need to do
> manual proofreading, even with todays technology!

> Brian Short


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Daxe Rexfor

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by Daxe Rexfor » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00


> >First off...I know its spelled brakes, I made a
mistake.

> Never used a spell check?

    Actually, break is spelled correctly, it just
isn't the right word.  Spell checkers don't check
to see if you are using the right words.

    In reality, shouldn't someone who is writing
for public consumption actually know how to spell
in the first place?  I do, and the guy who wrote
this 'review' said I am an idiot, so it must not
be that hard to do.

~daxe

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Wosc

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by Wosc » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

|Finally, I know there is going to be more then one track in the full
|version, but including only a single crappy track in a demo is a waste of
|time to download. If it takes 2 hours for the average home user connection
|to get, and only one track is available, the game is not worthy of a higher
|score.

Aren't you supposed to be reviewing the GAME AS A WHOLE? Not the demo?  The
demo is what it says, a demo of what will be the full version, so don't say
that the game sux and don't go buy it cause the demo has one track!  And
what other demos have all tracks in them or more than 1 in the original
demo?

Jesse

Adam

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by Adam » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

No....it was a DEMO REVIEW.    Not a full-version review.


Wosc

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by Wosc » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Oh it was? I didn't realize that.  But wouldn't the guys STILL take into
consideration that a demo normally has 1 track only and that a demo is not
meant to be the last thing you play?  A demo is made to be played to test
what you think and then go out and get the full version which will be better
with all stuff in it.  This guy seems to be thinking that EVERYTHING should
be in the game already and that no one should buy the game since the demo
should have it all.

Jesse

|No....it was a DEMO REVIEW.    Not a full-version review.
|
|

|> |Finally, I know there is going to be more then one track in the full
|> |version, but including only a single crappy track in a demo is a waste
of
|> |time to download. If it takes 2 hours for the average home user
|connection
|> |to get, and only one track is available, the game is not worthy of a
|higher
|> |score.
|>
|> Aren't you supposed to be reviewing the GAME AS A WHOLE? Not the demo?
|The
|> demo is what it says, a demo of what will be the full version, so don't
|say
|> that the game sux and don't go buy it cause the demo has one track!  And
|> what other demos have all tracks in them or more than 1 in the original
|> demo?
|>
|> Jesse
|>
|>
|
|

The Enigmatic O

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by The Enigmatic O » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

        Exactly--this wasn't a review of a racing game, it was a review of a
demo based on a download time/fun time ratio.  It was also aimed at the average
gamer.  Based on those criteria, it was quite good.

                                -The Enigmatic One

Jan Koh

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by Jan Koh » Fri, 26 Mar 1999 04:00:00

ROTFLMAO!!!  Post of the Week, Daxe...or should
that be 'Pose of the Weak'.

Hey, I can spell, just my spellchecker can't!  ;]

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Tony Wys

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by Tony Wys » Sat, 27 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I agree. If you are going to review something as a demo than you have to
treat it for what it's meant to be and not any more. Heh.

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