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Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I'm really sick of this........

They make GPL...... a good sim, good gfx, but to be honest I'm still of the
opinion its not totally the game you all make it out to be, but
nevertheless, I enjoy it very much and think it is very good.

Now, lets comepair that to other 1960's sims....... oh wait, theres NONE!

No competition.

Ok, N3,N2 , N1, all good NASCAR games/sims,  but look again.....we have
nothing to compare it to!

Maybe PAPY are being smart, producing somewhat decent GAMES where there has
not been one before, therefore, no competition, the dominate the market in
that division,

In my opinion, if PAPY had more competition we would  end up with a
collection of top rate sims but for now, its just not going to happen.....

..for this reason, I'm saying..... top says thing like "PAPY are sooooooo
brilliant they should make an modern f1 game, rally, .........etc...the list
goes on!"

Why do you assume that Papy can make a fantastic modern f1, rally , nascar,
cart game with a GPL engine....... you must be joking...

You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for having
handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is anything
like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my point.

Tim (fusio

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by Tim (fusio » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for having
>handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is anything
>like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my point.

Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
discussion of ideas.

Tim

Marc Collin

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by Marc Collin » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

LOL!!!!!!



> >You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for
having
> >handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is anything
> >like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my
point.

> Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
> discussion of ideas.

> Tim

Jan Verschuere

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by Jan Verschuere » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I will... as soon as you start making sense. Been at the Guinness me lad??
;-)

Jan.
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<snip>

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>I will... as soon as you start making sense. Been at the Guinness me lad??

Not yet, its only about 10am here...give it another hour:-)
>;-)

>Jan.
>----


>> I'm really sick of this........
><snip>

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Oh *** it, thats not what I mean.......

Of course ideas are great but I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY
would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?



>>You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for having
>>handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is anything
>>like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my
point.

>Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
>discussion of ideas.

>Tim

Scott Pittma

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by Scott Pittma » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Semi-decent 1960's game? Although it may not be a huge hit in the US, it's
still the best open wheel sim ever made.

Name a NASCAR sim on the market today that can compare to Papyrus's
releases.

--
Scott Pittman
FssPro Administrator

www.fsspro.com

> Oh *** it, thats not what I mean.......

> Of course ideas are great but I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY
> would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?



> >>You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for
having
> >>handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is
anything
> >>like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my
> point.

> >Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
> >discussion of ideas.

> >Tim

Ed Ba

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by Ed Ba » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:20:31 +0100,


Name any other company that produces better racing sims.

We're waiting.

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ymenar

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by ymenar » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00


First of all, it's not because "you" think that it's semi-decent that for
the majority of the *** Simracers it is.  We all think that it's a
masterpiece, that the new game engine is incredible and is the way of the
future for Papyrus.  GPL is a pure racing simulation, it's *** and
incredibly realistic.  It's the best racing title on the market, and it's
because of the completely new Papyrus game engine it has.  It's as simple as
that.

Second of all, If Papy would do any game with the GPL game engine, we would
all buy it, so we have the right to talk about anything on this newsgroup.
Never tell us what to do.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Christof Velmeri

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by Christof Velmeri » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Imagin, you have two racing games. Compare the two. You will find out, that
they have different driving-models. One is good, the other is shit, no
matter if the two compared sims play in the 80s in the 60s or in the 90s.
No matter if the cars go on gravel or tarmac.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO COMPARE RACING-GAMES.
Titop
By the way, the good one is GPL.
Christof Velmeri

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by Christof Velmeri » Sun, 12 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Imagin, you have two racing games. Compare the two. You will find out, that
they have different driving-models. One is good, the other is shit, no
matter if the two compared sims play in the 80s in the 60s or in the 90s.
No matter if the cars go on gravel or tarmac.
IT IS POSSIBLE TO COMPARE RACING-GAMES.
Titop
By the way, the good one is GPL.
Marc Merce

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by Marc Merce » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I've got to be one of the most discerning sim racing drivers there are...

I race myself and have a father who not only currently races an 83 F1 car,
but has raced just about every type of car there is in his long motorsport
hostory

I will not even waste a moment on anything that is even partially game ...
only the most realistic sim that is possible with current computer hardware
will do for me.

Every other sim I ever used went out the window with my purchase of GPL

The physics engine is without doubt the best that is possible with current
computer hardware.
It is the first sim to acurately model certain very important aspects of a
racing car ... inertia, realistic independent suspension movement and
damping, modeling of the mass of each significant part of each car etc etc
etc .... the  list could go on and on.

Not only this but its ingenious use of 60s F1 cars and circuit which in
regards to pure fun has to be the most enjoyable era there is in F1s 50 year
history.

It is every part the game we make it out to be and more ... it is 10years
ahead if its time.

Irregardless if the lack of 1960s F1 sim on the market ... its direct
competition is any release that has the gaul to call itself a racing
simulator.

I am open to constructive criticism of GPL, but your points are totally
unfounded.

GPL requires the dedication of the real thing...  either give it the time it
deserves or stop trolling this SIMULATION newsgroup GraDee.

Marc Mercer

Andrew MacPhers

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by Andrew MacPhers » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

If you think GPL is just a 60's sim then you're missing the point of the
GPL engine by about <-----(infinity-1)----> this much.

The 67 theme to GPL is just skin deep. Like most decent relationships,
surface appearance isn't really important... though it helps,
especially for the shallow-minded <g>.

Andrew McP

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00


>Semi-decent 1960's game? Although it may not be a huge hit in the US, it's
>still the best open wheel sim ever made.

>Name a NASCAR sim on the market today that can compare to Papyrus's
>releases.

That was my original point, there is noting on the market to compete with
GPL or N3..... !

>--
>Scott Pittman
>FssPro Administrator

>www.fsspro.com


>> Oh *** it, thats not what I mean.......

>> Of course ideas are great but I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY
>> would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
>> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?



>> >>You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for
>having
>> >>handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is
>anything
>> >>like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my
>> point.

>> >Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
>> >discussion of ideas.

>> >Tim

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

But don't you see....... You say I am critisising people because I don't
believe it is the "BEST SIM EVER MADE" but then you all go off and criticise
me !

sheeeese

And again, of course if PAPY ever make anything ever again that they call a
sim everyone will go and buy if because of GPL..... but I don't understand
why people would think that ust since PAPY can make a decent 1960's F1 sim
that automatically everything they do is a gift from God?

PAPY is very very talented at what they do, I just don't understand how you
are all so 1 sided...... I'd say the same about any other company or
manufacture if you all (well, most of you) acted like this........



>> Of course ideas are great but I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY
>> would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
>> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?

>First of all, it's not because "you" think that it's semi-decent that for
>the majority of the *** Simracers it is.  We all think that it's a
>masterpiece, that the new game engine is incredible and is the way of the
>future for Papyrus.  GPL is a pure racing simulation, it's *** and
>incredibly realistic.  It's the best racing title on the market, and it's
>because of the completely new Papyrus game engine it has.  It's as simple
as
>that.

>Second of all, If Papy would do any game with the GPL game engine, we would
>all buy it, so we have the right to talk about anything on this newsgroup.
>Never tell us what to do.

>--
>-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
>-- May the Downforce be with you...

>"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."


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