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Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

ahhhhhhhh!

Not this again, read my other responses and try to turn your head once in a
while!


>On Sat, 11 Sep 1999 17:20:31 +0100,


>> I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY
>>would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
>>because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?

>Name any other company that produces better racing sims.

>We're waiting.

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GraDe

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by GraDe » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

I get where your coming from alright but......

The engine is very good for GPL but that doesn't mean it will be the best
sim EVER!

Look, I'm just repeating myself over and over again to you people...... I
might as well give up and keep opinions to myself.


>> I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY would make such
>> fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
>> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?

>If you think GPL is just a 60's sim then you're missing the point of the
>GPL engine by about <-----(infinity-1)----> this much.

>The 67 theme to GPL is just skin deep. Like most decent relationships,
>surface appearance isn't really important... though it helps,
>especially for the shallow-minded <g>.

>Andrew McP

GraDe

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by GraDe » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Are you joking me?

I made addons for GP2, I built tracks for GP2, I was in a number GP2
leagues, race it night and day
I made addons for RS2, I race online constantly, and racing in the RS2
"Official" League, race it night and day
Always racing GPL, I am actually quite competent when it comes to GPL, race
it night and day.

If threes a sim to be got in these parts, I have it! And I'm quite competent
to race any one of them!

If you think I'm ot a true simulation racer then you can get out of my
face... you don't hae to believe it, but then again,I don't have to believe
everything you say either..... Thats what this NG's all about..!

Chris

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by Chris » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

No one every said it was the best sim that will ever be made.  If someone
says that, they are an absolute moron given the track record of the computer
industry for the rate of turn over in software and hardware advances.
However, right now IT IS THE MOST ADVANCED RACING SIMULATION "GAME"
AVAILABLE TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC, period.  Now, granted, its not everyone's
cup of tea as far as either the "theme" of 1960s GP racing nor the level of
realism achieved.  However, that doesn't mean its still not the top of the
heap of current racing titles.


> I get where your coming from alright but......

> The engine is very good for GPL but that doesn't mean it will be the best
> sim EVER!

> Look, I'm just repeating myself over and over again to you people...... I
> might as well give up and keep opinions to myself.


> >> I just wonder why everyone thinks that PAPY would make such
> >> fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
> >> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?

> >If you think GPL is just a 60's sim then you're missing the point of the
> >GPL engine by about <-----(infinity-1)----> this much.

> >The 67 theme to GPL is just skin deep. Like most decent relationships,
> >surface appearance isn't really important... though it helps,
> >especially for the shallow-minded <g>.

> >Andrew McP

ymenar

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by ymenar » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Please tell me where I criticise you.  Stop taking things too personally
here.  Nowhere below I criticise you.

Err... why do you say this ?  Nascar Racing 3 had a very cold approach by
the r.a.s. community. Same goes for every product released after GPL.
NascarRacing 99 and Craftman Trucks series.  I think you should look for our
history of messages on r.a.s.  Saying we praise anything from Papyrus is
untrue.  They are the most known racing simulation company in the world, and
they have made the most realistic sim at the moment.  Those are facts, you
know ?


> >First of all, it's not because "you" think that it's semi-decent that for
> >the majority of the *** Simracers it is.  We all think that it's a
> >masterpiece, that the new game engine is incredible and is the way of the
> >future for Papyrus.  GPL is a pure racing simulation, it's *** and
> >incredibly realistic.  It's the best racing title on the market, and it's
> >because of the completely new Papyrus game engine it has.  It's as simple
> as
> >that.

> >Second of all, If Papy would do any game with the GPL game engine, we
would
> >all buy it, so we have the right to talk about anything on this
newsgroup.
> >Never tell us what to do.

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-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Cowen Wilso

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by Cowen Wilso » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Umm, EA makes Nascar sims too...  Well at least that's what they call them.
Nascar 99, Nascar 2000, Nascar Revolution..  There's Papy's competition,
however small it may be.

Cowen



> >Semi-decent 1960's game? Although it may not be a huge hit in the US,
it's
> >still the best open wheel sim ever made.

> >Name a NASCAR sim on the market today that can compare to Papyrus's
> >releases.

> That was my original point, there is noting on the market to compete with
> GPL or N3..... !

> >--
> >Scott Pittman
> >FssPro Administrator

> >www.fsspro.com


> >> Oh *** it, thats not what I mean.......

> >> Of course ideas are great but I just wonder why everyone thinks that
PAPY
> >> would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
> >> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?



> >> >>You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for
> >having
> >> >>handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is
> >anything
> >> >>like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my
> >> point.

> >> >Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
> >> >discussion of ideas.

> >> >Tim

Andre Warring

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by Andre Warring » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Nascar 99 is by Papyrus actually....

Andre

On Sun, 12 Sep 1999 11:27:38 -0400, "Cowen Wilson"


>Umm, EA makes Nascar sims too...  Well at least that's what they call them.
>Nascar 99, Nascar 2000, Nascar Revolution..  There's Papy's competition,
>however small it may be.

>Cowen




>> >Semi-decent 1960's game? Although it may not be a huge hit in the US,
>it's
>> >still the best open wheel sim ever made.

>> >Name a NASCAR sim on the market today that can compare to Papyrus's
>> >releases.

>> That was my original point, there is noting on the market to compete with
>> GPL or N3..... !

>> >--
>> >Scott Pittman
>> >FssPro Administrator

>> >www.fsspro.com


>> >> Oh *** it, thats not what I mean.......

>> >> Of course ideas are great but I just wonder why everyone thinks that
>PAPY
>> >> would make such fantastic sims of ever form of racing known to man just
>> >> because of 1 semi-decent 1960's game?



>> >> >>You can't be anything more than one of those people who dis RS2 for
>> >having
>> >> >>handling much different to GP2...... yeah, like a 1994 F1 car is
>> >anything
>> >> >>like a 1997....... ah well, that ones for another day...I've made my
>> >> point.

>> >> >Yea. God forbid we have a discussion of ideas on a forum for
>> >> >discussion of ideas.

>> >> >Tim

ymenar

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by ymenar » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00


Ugh !

NASCAR 99  is an EA Product

NASCAR Racing : 1999 Edition  is a Papyrus/Sierra product

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Marc Merce

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by Marc Merce » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Indeed... people are entitled to say what they like and express their
opinions in this newsgroup...

However when you tell people to stop talking about a certain aspect of Sim
racing as you did in your subject line, you are going against the purpose of
the newsgroup as you have just defined it yourself.

Using such an unnecessarily belligerent subject line to elict a response
from people is knows as trolling...

I believe thats what your original post amounted to.  A more passive
explanation of your feelings on this subject would have been preferable.

Marc

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Oh forget it!



>> But don't you see....... You say I am critisising people because I don't
>> believe it is the "BEST SIM EVER MADE" but then you all go off and
>criticise
>> me !

>Please tell me where I criticise you.  Stop taking things too personally
>here.  Nowhere below I criticise you.

>> And again, of course if PAPY ever make anything ever again that they call
>a
>> sim everyone will go and buy if because of GPL..... but I don't
understand
>> why people would think that ust since PAPY can make a decent 1960's F1
sim
>> that automatically everything they do is a gift from God?

>Err... why do you say this ?  Nascar Racing 3 had a very cold approach by
>the r.a.s. community. Same goes for every product released after GPL.
>NascarRacing 99 and Craftman Trucks series.  I think you should look for
our
>history of messages on r.a.s.  Saying we praise anything from Papyrus is
>untrue.  They are the most known racing simulation company in the world,
and
>they have made the most realistic sim at the moment.  Those are facts, you
>know ?


>> >First of all, it's not because "you" think that it's semi-decent that
for
>> >the majority of the *** Simracers it is.  We all think that it's a
>> >masterpiece, that the new game engine is incredible and is the way of
the
>> >future for Papyrus.  GPL is a pure racing simulation, it's *** and
>> >incredibly realistic.  It's the best racing title on the market, and
it's
>> >because of the completely new Papyrus game engine it has.  It's as
simple
>> as
>> >that.

>> >Second of all, If Papy would do any game with the GPL game engine, we
>would
>> >all buy it, so we have the right to talk about anything on this
>newsgroup.
>> >Never tell us what to do.

>--
>-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
>-- May the Downforce be with you...

>"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
>how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

Ed Ba

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by Ed Ba » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:50:56 +0200,


EA's Nascar 99 is for the Playstation.

EA's Nascar Revolution for the PC is err.... uhhh..
Well go read the reviews for yourself.
:)

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Stuart Becktel

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by Stuart Becktel » Mon, 13 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Yes, NASCAR Revoultion and Road racing don't exist....
Cya,
Stuart Becktell
SBC Racing
#99 Intel Celeron Pontiac Grand Prix
BGN B
Go to the SBC Racing website at
http://home.rochester.rr.com/sbcracing/

Andre Warring

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by Andre Warring » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Oh, I didn't know there was a nascar 99 by EA.

What's it like? I have the nascar racing: 1999 by papy. Is is better?

Ok, let me rephrase that:
How much worse is the ea nascar compared to papy's? :)

Andre



>> Nascar 99 is by Papyrus actually....

>Ugh !

>NASCAR 99  is an EA Product

>NASCAR Racing : 1999 Edition  is a Papyrus/Sierra product

Andre Warring

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by Andre Warring » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

Yes, I played Revolution, I know :)

I don't own a playstation, that's why I didn't knew about Nascar 99 by
EA, thanks for the info.

Andre

GraDe

Stop talking about sims PAPY should make!!!!!

by GraDe » Tue, 14 Sep 1999 04:00:00

ok, Your right, I shouldn't have said that... but thats all I'm reading
lately!


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