> Sorry about that typo. With you having such an obviously Nordic name, Goy
> Larsen, I of course intended to type "from Up Over".
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
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> Norway or Australia? Whats the difference? if you fold the map over they
> are practically next door neighbors. Weren't they both :) former English
> prison settlements???
> (ducking)
> dave henrie
Actually, we used to pillage England when we had nothing better to do,
like pillaging France, of course this was 1000 years ago and our
military strength might have dwindled a bit since then......
Beers and cheers
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> > I thought that one dude was going to bean that rookie right on the head
with
> > his helmet :)
> That was funny as hell. I was just waiting to see Bruno pull him out of
> the car & whoop him. I don't blame him, under those circumstances I'd
> be pretty pissed too.
> > Then, the Rookie who caused the wreck gets "Evicted" from the race for
> > making a mistake?
> > CART is a tough crowd.
> It was quite a stupid mistake that could have gotten others seriously
> injured. It's not the first time he's pulled this kind of stunt either.
> Listening to Pat Patrick's comments, he may not have a job as a driver
> too much longer.
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> Fester
Strange Frank... it works with my MOMO on Win98 (USB as well). No FF,
obviously and I did have some trouble getting sound from my "new" (i.e.
bought after ICR2) PCI512 soundcard. Don't remember how I fixed that in the
end.
Revisiting the game brought home a couple of things to me. Firstly, what an
amazing game it was for it's day. Secondly, how sofisticated the driving
model is in what, nowadays, are deemed "less serious" similations compared
to this nearly 6-year old effort. Thirdly, how much of an FF-junkie I've
become. Difficult to imagine I once mastered ICR2, could run 100% races
without making mistakes and catch slides. Now it just doesn't "talk to me"
anymore because it's not talking through my arms.
Going back to CPR with a faster computer and an FF wheel was an even bigger
disappointment to me.
We really need someone to pick up on this type of racing. Would the mid to
late 90's CART heydays also be inaccessible due to licencing issues?
Jan.
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True, true ;)
Icr2 is still almost exactly the same as Icr1. If you ever find a copy of
the original Indycar Racing, you'll find that the similarities are
incredible. It's like GP3-->GP4 in terms of ressemblance. So that's even
more incredible, the fact that a decade old simulation is still playable and
entertaining.
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I use the dos version as well, patched to v1.0.2.
I still own ICR1... haven't installed it in ages though.
Really good games/sims never lose their appeal.
Jan.
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Also, NASCAR 1 had a more sophisticated physics model (than ICR1),
which was carried over to ICR2/CART. I was able to successfully drive
ICR1 using just button inputs for throttle and brake. For N1, ICR2
and later, you had to have real analog throttle and brake input.
So concludes our trip down memory lane... :)
"But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was
nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into
a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark
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Fester
Originally Icr2 did not have that, it was only added as an extra.
??? Icr1 used analogue braking, and heck even with NR2002 drivers are able
to successfully drive with just button inputs for throttle and brake. Icr1
and every early Papyrus title (even include Indianapolis 500 : The
Simulation) also shared a very common base game engine, all the way to
Nascar Racing 3 and Nascar Legends. Load Icr2 in VGA, then load Icr1.
You'll see that it's very much a similar title, but with some tweaks here
and there. Like I wrote, the same gap as let's say GP3 and GP4. I've never
said it was a bad thing.
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And yet it's the IRL that can take a clearly stated rule, and completely
ignore it to alter the outcome of a race. The IRL rulebook used to state,
until after the Indy 500 that is, that racing will continue UNTIL the Yellow
flag/lights are displayed. Since the Team Kool Green owner proved, at great
cost, that his driver Paul Tracey had indeed completed the pass BEFORE the
yellow lights were on, The child of satan ignored his own rules and created
a new interpretation AFTER THE FACT: Racing now ceases when they DECIDE to
throw a yellow.
So whatever happens on track between the time they say 'lets display a
yellow, and however long it takes them to pickup the flag and wave it...is
irrelevant. If I were a Canadien citizen, I might think of filing some
sort of bias lawsuit. And Team Kool Green should pursue this further...if
only to stick 'he who shall remane nameless' with a big legal bill.
dave henrie
Hey! I just got an idea!
If I rememer right, ICR2 ran pretty good on a 450MHz PIII machine.
And I have that old GamePort version of the MSFFW.
Maybe I'll take PartitionMagic and steal away 1GB from my Terminal Server
machine, and install Win98 on it just for these old SIMS.
-Larry
> Mine runs, but since I use an USB joystick I can't drive it anymore. I
also
> don't have any sound. It's a pity, because I still raced Icr2 quite
often.
> I liked the way the cars acted. I could do anything with those cars,
> because of how long I've been racing the sim.
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Yeah, I was VERY surprised to hear Pat 'hang him out to dry' like that...
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