rec.autos.simulators

Could anyone tell me why you would need frame rates higher than 12??
I have a P90, so I need all the Processor Power I can get.  I use
SVGA, but only textures for circuit, kerbs and scenery (only minimum,
just not nothing) and smoke in my mirrors. GP2 estimates some 16
frames per second for this setup, but I use 11,6 fr/s, which gives me
occupancy around 50-60%, but in corners with lots of traffic (double
chicane in Monza right after the start for instance) the occupancy
goes up to 140%. Still, most of the time the game seems totally smooth
with 11,2 frames/sec. So why more?

Wouter Blom

BTW, It is funny about so much to do with computers- if you don't have
something, you don't miss it. If I were to race SVGA on your computer
for a week, I doubt I'd ever play at home again!

What did you do to your sound card selection?

Actually I find that I have a better perspective during the turns
in SVGA. This ultimately helps...

: BTW, It is funny about so much to do with computers- if you don't have
: something, you don't miss it. If I were to race SVGA on your computer
: for a week, I doubt I'd ever play at home again!

You'd be surprised.  I've managed to improve the performance
of GP2 on my pc quite considerably over the last week through
reading some of the tips in this group.  i was playing VGA
with about half the textures on (P75, S3Trio32 1M, 8M RAM)
and to begin with starting with a high frame rate.  

I dropped the frame rate, changed the soundcard selection,
removed just about everything from the mirrors and upped
the textures on the forward facing (s3spdup didn't seem to
make any difference).  The game was now really moving.
The gp2 log results are good, 172 and 250 I think.  Last
night I overclocked to P90 and got much better performace
so I thought I'd try SVGA.  With everything off it's playable
but I honestly don't rate it any better as a game in SVGA
that in VGA.  Sure it looks better, but it plays the same
and when you're travelling at 200mph all you're interested
in is the apex or the car in front.

The trend with games for more and more graphic detail is
ultimately unnecessary - I'm especially annoyed with the
CD Rom explosion - just masses of graphics.  There is no

Just my tuppence worth.

Rich.

Julian
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But you lose the stereo. If you don't care about it, it is a good way to
get a little faster frame rate.

Samppa
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: Glad you got it going. But if you believe this (VGA vs SVGA thing), you
: should try it on a fast P5. I am running it on a P5-133. And it just sucks

: VGA is washed out and over pixelated. The origional WC was better in VGA :-)
: If I still had a 486 I'd be bummed.

This is what I thought to begin with because GP1 gave you a
"cleaner" view of the track when everything was turned off.
I've got used to the new cars, scenery etc. (although not
being able to turn off the texture mapping on the trees is
a major mistake) and now I'm used to the VGA view with most
things on.

It's a bit of an impressionist painting, yeah, but I think
I prefer it to GP1 now, even in VGA.

Now all I've got to do is get some good setups.
Heh.

Rich.

Let's face it, the stereo doesn't add much - phantom cars passing the
pits, running over a kerb when it's obvious which side the kerb is on,
the music during the menus  and.... well, _is_ there anything else
that the stereo is used for in GP2?

Richard

Has anyone noticed that switching a saved game from VGA to SVGA
slows down immensely ? I was racing in Hungary using VGA ~20 fps
(suggested 25 fps), occupancy 70-80% , saved that and continued
next day using lower detail SVGA ~12 fps (suggested fps 17), and
got occupancy ratings between 140-160 % (no, I didn't have 'the
speed-killer', ie. smoke on) . Lowering the fps further did not
lower the  occupancy, so could  it be that saved games are
continued at the original frame rate ??

BTW, the large occupancy rate made driving real easy once you got
into the sleepwalkers rhythm :)  except for two spots on the
track where the occupancy dropped near 100% and the car really
*jumped* forward. Finished first with a huge margin... Must try
again using VGA, as driving at occupancy rates > 130% feels like
cheating.
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Cheers.

--John
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  John (Joao) Silva
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  Seattle, Washington USA.

I have a SB16, BTW.