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Help: Nascar 3/Logitech FF Wheel Not Working Yet

bsp32

Help: Nascar 3/Logitech FF Wheel Not Working Yet

by bsp32 » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

A friend of mine who doesn't know much about computers got Nascar Racing
3 and asked me to install it on his computer.  I did that today, but
it's still not ready to play with his Logitech Force Feedback Wheel.  I
have a couple of problems.  Maaaybe I know the solution, but I want to
know if any of you knows the solution so that I won't have to go through
as much trial and error next time I get over to my friend's place.
Anyway, here are the problems:

1) The Logitech's pedals wouldn't work at all yet in Nascar 3.

2) It seems the wheel didn't worked in the game until I performed a
calibration under Options.  A confusing thing about that is this: in the
Options screen, I had to use "Calibrate Joystick 1."  Why wouldn't it
just be steering wheel setting?  By default, under "Steering" on the
right, "Joystick/Keyboard (Non-Linear)" is selected, when I would expect
"Wheel (Linear)" to be selected, but then again, I don't know what the
term "Linear" is supposed to mean in this situation.

Right now, the Logitech Profiler software is not running in Windows.
Could that be causing the problem?  I didn't have time to test that
before I had to leave his house.  I don't really have any experience
setting up steering wheel controllers yet.

For the record, all of the Logitech's functions work just fine under Win
98's Control Panel | Game Controllers.

Thanks for any help.
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Dave Henri

Help: Nascar 3/Logitech FF Wheel Not Working Yet

by Dave Henri » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

If he leaves the unit plugged in and powered up all the time then it
should work after the initial calibration.  If, however, he's like me,
and has the power for the wheel plugged into a powerstrip that I turn
off when I'm done computing for a day...then he'll have to recalibrate
each time he powers up the unit.
  Here's what I do.
1. go to Start/settings/control panel
2. double clik on the game controller icon
3. wait for the screen to report the LWFF is connected with an OK
4. clik on the properties button.
5. Usually the gauge for the gas pedal will be all the way to the left
and the brake pedal gauge will be all the way to the right.  
6. Clik on the settings button
7. On the next screen click the box for separate axis & the Force
Feedback box is checked.  Adjust to FF sliders to his own preference.
For N3 I enable the centering spring.  For GPL I turn it off.
   (you should only have to do this once)[or until you change it
manually]
8. clik ok.  Your pedal guages should now be both to the left and both
should be able to move independant of the other.  ie you can press both
pedals, even at different ammounts and see both guages move separately
9. Clik ok and exit.
Your wheel and pedals should now be fully configured in windows.  Once
you calibrate joystick 1 and joystick 2  in N3 you will be ready to go.
Here's a tip for inside N3.  When Calibrating the first joystick, only
move the wheel.  when calibrating the 2nd joystick, only move the
pedals.  Then assign the varios pedals and wheel up above the joystick
calibration boxes.  
  As long as he double checks the wheel in the windows game controller
control panel before he boots N3, he shouldn't have to mess with any
settings in N3.  If the pedals don't respond, just exit N3, go through
the control panel stuff and then restart N3.  Alt-tabbing doesn't seem
to work, N3 has to boot with a fully enabled Wheel setting in windows to
detect the wheel and pedals.
  It sounds complicated, but takes only about 10 seconds and even that
isn't necessary if he leaves the wheel powered up all the time.

  The profiler is not needed but does provide access to the buttons on
the steering wheel so he can use the buttons to call up the Function
keys inside the game like F1 or F2.  And adjust the sensitivity of the
wheel and pedal to his liking.

dave henrie


> A friend of mine who doesn't know much about computers got Nascar Racing
> 3 and asked me to install it on his computer.  I did that today, but
> it's still not ready to play with his Logitech Force Feedback Wheel.  I
> have a couple of problems.  Maaaybe I know the solution, but I want to
> know if any of you knows the solution so that I won't have to go through
> as much trial and error next time I get over to my friend's place.
> Anyway, here are the problems:

> 1) The Logitech's pedals wouldn't work at all yet in Nascar 3.

> 2) It seems the wheel didn't worked in the game until I performed a
> calibration under Options.  A confusing thing about that is this: in the
> Options screen, I had to use "Calibrate Joystick 1."  Why wouldn't it
> just be steering wheel setting?  By default, under "Steering" on the
> right, "Joystick/Keyboard (Non-Linear)" is selected, when I would expect
> "Wheel (Linear)" to be selected, but then again, I don't know what the
> term "Linear" is supposed to mean in this situation.

> Right now, the Logitech Profiler software is not running in Windows.
> Could that be causing the problem?  I didn't have time to test that
> before I had to leave his house.  I don't really have any experience
> setting up steering wheel controllers yet.

> For the record, all of the Logitech's functions work just fine under Win
> 98's Control Panel | Game Controllers.

> Thanks for any help.
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bsp32

Help: Nascar 3/Logitech FF Wheel Not Working Yet

by bsp32 » Thu, 27 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Wow!  Your tips seem really helpful.  They're very thorough.  They seem to
make sense to me, too, even though I'm new at setting up steering wheels, as
I've stated before.  He does have everything plugged into a power strip, which
he turns off after exiting Windows 98.  I'll give your tips a try next time
I'm over there (hopefully in the next few days), and I'll post back with the
results.

Thanks again!
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> If he leaves the unit plugged in and powered up all the time then it
> should work after the initial calibration.  If, however, he's like me,
> and has the power for the wheel plugged into a powerstrip that I turn
> off when I'm done computing for a day...then he'll have to recalibrate
> each time he powers up the unit.
>   Here's what I do.
> 1. go to Start/settings/control panel
> 2. double clik on the game controller icon
> 3. wait for the screen to report the LWFF is connected with an OK
> 4. clik on the properties button.
> 5. Usually the gauge for the gas pedal will be all the way to the left
> and the brake pedal gauge will be all the way to the right.
> 6. Clik on the settings button
> 7. On the next screen click the box for separate axis & the Force
> Feedback box is checked.  Adjust to FF sliders to his own preference.
> For N3 I enable the centering spring.  For GPL I turn it off.
>    (you should only have to do this once)[or until you change it
> manually]
> 8. clik ok.  Your pedal guages should now be both to the left and both
> should be able to move independant of the other.  ie you can press both
> pedals, even at different ammounts and see both guages move separately
> 9. Clik ok and exit.
> Your wheel and pedals should now be fully configured in windows.  Once
> you calibrate joystick 1 and joystick 2  in N3 you will be ready to go.
> Here's a tip for inside N3.  When Calibrating the first joystick, only
> move the wheel.  when calibrating the 2nd joystick, only move the
> pedals.  Then assign the varios pedals and wheel up above the joystick
> calibration boxes.
>   As long as he double checks the wheel in the windows game controller
> control panel before he boots N3, he shouldn't have to mess with any
> settings in N3.  If the pedals don't respond, just exit N3, go through
> the control panel stuff and then restart N3.  Alt-tabbing doesn't seem
> to work, N3 has to boot with a fully enabled Wheel setting in windows to
> detect the wheel and pedals.
>   It sounds complicated, but takes only about 10 seconds and even that
> isn't necessary if he leaves the wheel powered up all the time.

>   The profiler is not needed but does provide access to the buttons on
> the steering wheel so he can use the buttons to call up the Function
> keys inside the game like F1 or F2.  And adjust the sensitivity of the
> wheel and pedal to his liking.

> dave henrie


> > A friend of mine who doesn't know much about computers got Nascar Racing
> > 3 and asked me to install it on his computer.  I did that today, but
> > it's still not ready to play with his Logitech Force Feedback Wheel.  I
> > have a couple of problems.  Maaaybe I know the solution, but I want to
> > know if any of you knows the solution so that I won't have to go through
> > as much trial and error next time I get over to my friend's place.
> > Anyway, here are the problems:

> > 1) The Logitech's pedals wouldn't work at all yet in Nascar 3.

> > 2) It seems the wheel didn't worked in the game until I performed a
> > calibration under Options.  A confusing thing about that is this: in the
> > Options screen, I had to use "Calibrate Joystick 1."  Why wouldn't it
> > just be steering wheel setting?  By default, under "Steering" on the
> > right, "Joystick/Keyboard (Non-Linear)" is selected, when I would expect
> > "Wheel (Linear)" to be selected, but then again, I don't know what the
> > term "Linear" is supposed to mean in this situation.

> > Right now, the Logitech Profiler software is not running in Windows.
> > Could that be causing the problem?  I didn't have time to test that
> > before I had to leave his house.  I don't really have any experience
> > setting up steering wheel controllers yet.

> > For the record, all of the Logitech's functions work just fine under Win
> > 98's Control Panel | Game Controllers.

> > Thanks for any help.
> > --
> > To reply by email, please remove each "x" from my email address.


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