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Major hawaii.exe bugs

<ch..

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by <ch.. » Sun, 28 Apr 1996 04:00:00

I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

Chris and/or Da

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Chris and/or Da » Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:00:00


>I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
>car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
>for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

Hmm, try using it in dos as you should.  I've never had one problem
with the system itself.  Had a few minor problems with some features,
and have let their tech people know.

Run it from DOS as it should, and not WINDOWS.   This should fix your
problem if you wish to continue with Hawaii.

Chris

John Simmo

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by John Simmo » Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>>I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
>>car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
>>for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar
> racing

>Hmm, try using it in dos as you should.  I've never had one problem
>with the system itself.  Had a few minor problems with some features,
>and have let their tech people know.

>Run it from DOS as it should, and not WINDOWS.   This should fix your
>problem if you wish to continue with Hawaii.

I run it from within Windows95 and it works just fine.

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Michael Lescau

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Michael Lescau » Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:00:00

: I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
: car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
: for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

Nascar is not a windows game.  If you look at the files you got with your
Hawaii software, you will find this very nice user guide.You may want to read it,
before posting anymore "bugs".

Mike

Ed Marti

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Ed Marti » Mon, 29 Apr 1996 04:00:00


> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

Yes, I am yelling...

WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.

Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
multiplayer under Win 95.

This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.
--
Ed Martin
Papyrus Design Group

Eva

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Eva » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00

?
?I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
?car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
?for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

           It appears that you would be the "major bug."  =)  Here's a
sample from the first page of Hawaii's readme.txt....you might want to
start troubleshooting there:

**** Windows 95 ****

We do not support Windows 95 at this time.  If you are a Windows 95
user, you should run multiplayer and/or NASCAR Racing in MS-DOS
exclusive mode.

--Evan

Sean Ormon

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Sean Ormon » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00


> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

Hawaii isn't perfect, but until you read the Guide, save your posts:
"We do not support Windows 95 at this time.  If you are a Windows 95 user, you
should run multiplayer and/or NASCAR Racing in MS-DOS exclusive mode."

Sean

Jim Warr

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Jim Warr » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00





 It is in 'beta' remember that ... report any such incidents to Papyrus as
explained in the hawaii.doc you got as part of the hawaii.exe. Papy has a ton
of new 'programming challanges' to work out here now that there are so many
people up online.

John Simmo

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by John Simmo » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
>> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
>> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar
> racing

>Yes, I am yelling...

>WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.

>Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
>Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
>95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
>multiplayer under Win 95.

>This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.

If you want the game to work under Win95, you must:

1) Have at least 16mb of memory (32 would be better)

2) write a batch file that contains the following lines:

     J: (or whatever drive letter it's installed on)
     CD\NASCAR
     NASCAR -H

3) Make sure the batch file exists somewhere on your path.

4) When you want to run the game, open a DOS window with screen saving turned
off, and simply type the name of the batch file.

Following these steps, I've never had a problem getting NASCAR Racing to run
under Win95, but like Ed stated, your mileage may vary.

BTW, Ed, I think the hawaii should give you a chance to calibrate your
controls each time it runs the sim.  It doesn't always allow that and I
haven't found a way to do it when I want to.

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Ed Marti

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Ed Marti » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00




> >> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
> >> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
> >> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar
> > racing

> >Yes, I am yelling...

> >WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.

> >Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
> >Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
> >95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
> >multiplayer under Win 95.

> >This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.

> If you want the game to work under Win95, you must:

> 1) Have at least 16mb of memory (32 would be better)

> 2) write a batch file that contains the following lines:

>      J: (or whatever drive letter it's installed on)
>      CD\NASCAR
>      NASCAR -H

> 3) Make sure the batch file exists somewhere on your path.

> 4) When you want to run the game, open a DOS window with screen saving turned
> off, and simply type the name of the batch file.

> Following these steps, I've never had a problem getting NASCAR Racing to run
> under Win95, but like Ed stated, your mileage may vary.

> BTW, Ed, I think the hawaii should give you a chance to calibrate your
> controls each time it runs the sim.  It doesn't always allow that and I
> haven't found a way to do it when I want to.

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> | http://www2.connectnet.com/users/jms/index.html |
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OK, one last time...

WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.

John,

If you happen to get it working, congratulations.  However, we know that
it does not work on everyone's system and we do not want people to use
it.  It's tough enough to track down bugs during a beta involving
thousands of people without having people use an operatiing system that
we do not support.

I know you're just trying to help, but you are not helping us.

NO WINDOWS 95!
--
Ed Martin
Papyrus Design Group

Eva

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Eva » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00


?>>
?>> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
?>> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
?>> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar
?> racing
?>
?>Yes, I am yelling...
?>
?>WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.
?>
?>Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
?>Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
?>95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
?>multiplayer under Win 95.
?>
?>This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.
?
?If you want the game to work under Win95, you must:
?
?1) Have at least 16mb of memory (32 would be better)
?
?2) write a batch file that contains the following lines:
?
?     J: (or whatever drive letter it's installed on)
?     CD\NASCAR
?     NASCAR -H
?
?3) Make sure the batch file exists somewhere on your path.
?
?4) When you want to run the game, open a DOS window with screen saving turned
?off, and simply type the name of the batch file.
?
?Following these steps, I've never had a problem getting NASCAR Racing to run
?under Win95, but like Ed stated, your mileage may vary.

            Sorry if I'm way off base here, but why didn't you just
add the -h parameter into the command line in the properties box.
That is, simply make a shortcut, etc....?

?BTW, Ed, I think the hawaii should give you a chance to calibrate your
?controls each time it runs the sim.  It doesn't always allow that and I
?haven't found a way to do it when I want to.
?
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--Evan

B.Kn

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by B.Kn » Tue, 30 Apr 1996 04:00:00



>> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
>> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
>> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing
>Yes, I am yelling...
>WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.
>Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
>Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
>95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
>multiplayer under Win 95.
>This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.
>--
>Ed Martin
>Papyrus Design Group

 Holy Shit!

 Nice customer relations you're developing there!
Don't worry Ed, it's not like you need people to buy your products. I
mean, what good are consumers anyway?

 Idiot!

Ed Marti

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Ed Marti » Wed, 01 May 1996 04:00:00




> >> I just got done with Nascar Hawaii Because my screen went still,  however the
> >> car was still moving.  Once earlier tonight,  it brought me back to windows
> >> for no reason.. There's definetely some bugs in hawaii multiplayer nascar racing

> >Yes, I am yelling...

> >WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.

> >Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
> >Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
> >95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
> >multiplayer under Win 95.

> >This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.
> >--
> >Ed Martin
> >Papyrus Design Group

>  Holy Shit!

>  Nice customer relations you're developing there!
> Don't worry Ed, it's not like you need people to buy your products. I
> mean, what good are consumers anyway?

>  Idiot!

B.Knox

If you bother to read through this newsgroup, you might notice how much
I/we do support our customers out here.  However, in this case, I am
trying to stop people from trying something that we have thoroughly
tested & do not support -- Windows 95 w/ multiplayer NASCAR.  And, I am
purposely trying to state it as strongly as possible.

Multiplayer has been under development for over a year & a half.  During
that time, we tested it as thoroughly as possible.  We put it into open
beta with warnings plastered all over it -- we do not support Windows
95.  Yet people are asking how to do it.

The purpose of the open beta is to work any remaining bugs out of the
system, and get as much user feedback as possible.  That is why I
monitor this newsgroup 3-4 times/day.  However, when I see something
going "wrong", I certainly think it is my perogative to try to set it
straight.  I'm sorry if you don't agree with my tone in this particular
thread.  Perhaps you should read a few other postings of mine before you
say anything more.
--
Ed Martin
Papyrus Design Group

Terje Wold Johans

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by Terje Wold Johans » Wed, 01 May 1996 04:00:00



...
> >WE DO NOT SUPPORT WINDOWS 95 IN THIS BETA RELEASE.  PERIOD.

> >Some people might be able to get it to work, but plain & simple, NASCAR
> >Racing 1.x came out before Win 95, it was never intended to run with Win
> >95, we do not support the standlone game in Win 95 and we do not support
> >multiplayer under Win 95.

> >This is clearly spelled out in the User's Guide.
> >--
> >Ed Martin

>  Holy Shit!

>  Nice customer relations you're developing there!
> Don't worry Ed, it's not like you need people to buy your products. I
> mean, what good are consumers anyway?

>  Idiot!

Mr. Martin is just being honest. User's Guide is just that - a guide
for the user. Those who ask a zillion questions without first
checking the guide they are bound to be found on the high end of the
universial moronic scale.

Don't be so uptight, rock some instead!

--
--- Terje Wold Johansen

--- http://www.ifi.uio.no/~terjjo/
--- "I am your inferior superior." O.W.

David Kadlc

Major hawaii.exe bugs

by David Kadlc » Wed, 01 May 1996 04:00:00


>BTW, Ed, I think the hawaii should give you a chance to calibrate your
>controls each time it runs the sim.  It doesn't always allow that and I
>haven't found a way to do it when I want to.

  John, there is a way.  Before (or while)  the sim is loading, hold
down the gas for example.  This brings it out of the calibrated center
and the computer thinks it needs to be recalibrated. Happened to me
once when I was playin' with my pedals before the game was loaded.

Dave.


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