Joe
Joe, I would love to give you a break! I did by suggesting
you use a good 2d card other than the ATI which you use. I have a
friend using basically same setup as you with the ATI. To prove a
point I loaned him a S3 Trio(50 bucks) to use with NFS2 and he was
dumb struck by the difference. Needless to say he isn't using the ATI
anymore. Now whether you will like the game with a faster frame rate,
well I think we all know the answer! :)
Pete
> >Joe, I see your still at it! Until they do a patch so you
> >can use your 3dfx card why don't you try the game with a real video
> >card. That piece of ***ATI card you use just doesn't cut it.
> GMAFB. It is a fact that different 2d cards make only the tiniest
> difference to performance, not even noticable to most people. And
> besides, if my video card is so bad why does NFS 1 fly like lightning
> on it? Answer that one brainiac.
> Joe
Joe
Joe, I will resist trying to reason with you! You
are so highly opinionated on every subject you post on that it
is a waste of time. But perhaps if you stopped calling everyone who
disagrees with you stupid or blind it might carry you further.
As far as computers are concerned I started working on computers
in 1974, so perhaps you can come back in a few years!
So I will leave you on your personal crusade to trash NFS2
on and on and on..........
> > Joe, I would love to give you a break! I did by suggesting
> >you use a good 2d card other than the ATI which you use.
> You have failed to answer any of my questions. Your argument is
> illogical, and you cannot support it. Why is NFS 1 able to dump
> graphics to the screen at a very high frame-rate, and NFS 2 not? They
> are both running on the same graphics chip. It doesn't suddenly get
> slower when running a different game. Perhaps you need to find out a
> little about how computers work before continuing this "argument".
> Joe
> > Joe, I would love to give you a break! I did by suggesting
> >you use a good 2d card other than the ATI which you use.
> You have failed to answer any of my questions. Your argument is
> illogical, and you cannot support it. Why is NFS 1 able to dump
> graphics to the screen at a very high frame-rate, and NFS 2 not? They
> are both running on the same graphics chip. It doesn't suddenly get
> slower when running a different game. Perhaps you need to find out a
> little about how computers work before continuing this "argument".
> Joe
It is a know fact that windows slows down games down. This is due to
things that are being loaded beyond your control. Just to give an
example: If you are running plus and have a theme loaded with animated
icons look to see how much of your system resources are free.
NFS 1 is able to "dump" graphics to the screen quicker becuase it is
using DOS. NFS 2 is using Microsoft's direct X. This is only in the
third version. In later releases the performance will probably
increase, but for right now you will have to endure. NFS 2 is more
complex than NFS 1 and that takes up some performance.
You should just try a different video card before you tell people they
need to find out how computers work. Until, you try another video card
you should stop responding to this argument. I can tell you for a fact
that something in your system is slowing it down (partially NFS2, but
not totally).
matt
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> >The problem is windows. When windows is running it is using some of
> >your system resources.
> A small percentage of them, yes.
> >Every game I have tried has run slower through windows.
> Maybe so, but many of them run much faster than NFS 2.
> >NFS 1 is able to "dump" graphics to the screen quicker becuase it is
> >using DOS. NFS 2 is using Microsoft's direct X. This is only in the
> >third version. In later releases the performance will probably
> >increase, but for right now you will have to endure. NFS 2 is more
> >complex than NFS 1 and that takes up some performance.
> >You should just try a different video card before you tell people they
> >need to find out how computers work.
> What are you talking about? You just spend a whole post telling me the
> problem was Windows, and now the problem is not Windows all of a
> sudden? Make up your mind.
> Joe
I will stop responding to anything you post now. You have pulled out
frame rates from you invisible frame rate program, and until you post
where you can get a program that will measure the frame rate your posts
are useless.
--
Maybe so, but many of them run much faster than NFS 2.
What are you talking about? You just spend a whole post telling me the
problem was Windows, and now the problem is not Windows all of a
sudden? Make up your mind.
Joe
Joe
Joe
Joe, when I choose to reason, it will be with a reasonable
person!
You wouldn't like the answers!
Pete
> You don't know how to reason, you've made that perfectly clear. Note
> that you have still failed to answer any of my questions.
> Joe
> > You are so full of shit!! How do you know this guy isnt getting good
> >framerates on NFS2 ?
> Because he's seen it running on faster computers, and the game is
> still unbearably slow.
> >I have it running on a K6-166 w/32 meg,stealth
> >3d2000 and it runs great!
> It does not.
> Joe
Joe
> I have seen so many people say that "you have not seen it run on my
> computer". Unless you have some computer that was "specially designed
> for Need For Speed II" then you are smoking crack when you're playing
> this game. I have a 200MMX machine that I run NFS2 on and it STILL
> crawls unless I turn down the detail. I also have NFSSE and can play
> with all detail on with great frame rates. I'm not calling you a
> liar, well yeah I am, but there is no way in hell that one little
> computer is going to have these great results that you preach about.
> Of course, its all relative, and unless youve played the original,
> you'll never know.
On Wed, 09 Jul 1997 15:39:43 -0400, Anthony Mitchell
>> I have seen so many people say that "you have not seen it run on my
>> computer". Unless you have some computer that was "specially designed
>> for Need For Speed II" then you are smoking crack when you're playing
>> this game. I have a 200MMX machine that I run NFS2 on and it STILL
>> crawls unless I turn down the detail. I also have NFSSE and can play
>> with all detail on with great frame rates. I'm not calling you a
>> liar, well yeah I am, but there is no way in hell that one little
>> computer is going to have these great results that you preach about.
>> Of course, its all relative, and unless youve played the original,
>> you'll never know.
>If NFS2 crawls on your 200mhz MMX, You need to have your system checked
>out. Run some benchmark tests (winbench, wintune,etc...). I have a
>200mhz MMX. NFS2 isn't as smooth as NFS1 but on my machine the frame
>rate is great. The Game Sucks but the frame rate is great on my
>system.
Steve
> >I will stop responding to anything you post now.
> Thank God, I am so tired of listening to your illogical arguments and
> avoidance of the real issues. Hopefully you can at least keep your
> promise above.
> Joe
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