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NFS II .Yes or no ?

Chris Moor

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Chris Moor » Wed, 02 Jul 1997 04:00:00


> Sorry Joe, but one of us either has a computer running too fast or too
> slow. ;-)

>  Looks like my p200 is running too fast as NFS2 runs great at all
> resolutions/detail. No jerkiness or anything. A bit more arcade-like than
> NFS1, but great still if u like that sorta thing.

> Someone hand me the fire extinguisher, its getting hot in here!!!!
> --

Finally!!  Somebody else has a computer that can run it on full detail!
I thought I was all by my lonesome.

Chris

Phillip

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Phillip » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Sorry Joe, but one of us either has a computer running too fast or too
slow. ;-)

 Looks like my p200 is running too fast as NFS2 runs great at all
resolutions/detail. No jerkiness or anything. A bit more arcade-like than
NFS1, but great still if u like that sorta thing.

Someone hand me the fire extinguisher, its getting hot in here!!!!
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>>> Ok, what's a reasonable system to run this well?  Forget what the box
says,
>>> what's the 'real world' answer?

>>It works perfect on my P166.

>It does not. In fullscreen mode, with the***pit on - the same mode
>that worked GREAT in NFS 1 - the game is slower than molasses in
>December, even on a P200.

>Joe

Jason R Smi

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Jason R Smi » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

I have seen so many people say that "you have not seen it run on my
computer".  Unless you have some computer that was "specially designed
for Need For Speed II" then you are smoking crack when you're playing
this game.  I have a 200MMX machine that I run NFS2 on and it STILL
crawls unless I turn down the detail.  I also have NFSSE and can play
with all detail on with great frame rates.  I'm not calling you a
liar, well yeah I am, but there is no way in hell that one little
computer is going to have these great results that you preach about.
Of course, its all relative, and unless youve played the original,
you'll never know.




>> >> Ok, what's a reasonable system to run this well?  Forget what the box says,
>> >> what's the 'real world' answer?

>> >It works perfect on my P166.

>> It does not. In fullscreen mode, with the***pit on - the same mode
>> that worked GREAT in NFS 1 - the game is slower than molasses in
>> December, even on a P200.

>> Joe
>First of all, you've never seen it run on my computer, and I have.  I
>get frame rates comparable to those of NFS.  There must be something
>screwy with your hardware setup.
>Chris

Jo

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Jo » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00


>Finally!!  Somebody else has a computer that can run it on full detail!

Anyone can run it at full detail, with the***pit on. You'll just get
a terrible fram rate, that's all (even with a P200).

Joe

BUGALOO

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by BUGALOO » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00


> I have seen so many people say that "you have not seen it run on my
> computer".  Unless you have some computer that was "specially designed

> for Need For Speed II" then you are smoking crack when you're playing
> this game.  I have a 200MMX machine that I run NFS2 on and it STILL
> crawls unless I turn down the detail.  I also have NFSSE and can play
> with all detail on with great frame rates.  I'm not calling you a
> liar, well yeah I am, but there is no way in hell that one little
> computer is going to have these great results that you preach about.
> Of course, its all relative, and unless youve played the original,
> you'll never know.




> >> >> Ok, what's a reasonable system to run this well?  Forget what
> the box says,
> >> >> what's the 'real world' answer?

> >> >It works perfect on my P166.

> >> It does not. In fullscreen mode, with the***pit on - the same
> mode
> >> that worked GREAT in NFS 1 - the game is slower than molasses in
> >> December, even on a P200.

> >> Joe

> >First of all, you've never seen it run on my computer, and I have.  I

> >get frame rates comparable to those of NFS.  There must be something
> >screwy with your hardware setup.

> >Chrs

 You  are so full of shit!! How do you know this guy isnt getting good
framerates on NFS2 ?  I have it running on a K6-166 w/32 meg,stealth
3d2000 and it runs great!
So at least goo on your own experience and not say people are lying just
because your computer isnt running so great!!!
AndyRoss

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by AndyRoss » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

  Why does everyone expect a new game, written for the Pentium, to have a
FASTER frame rate than an older game written for 486's??? It has more
detail and more work to do. Add in the overhead with DirectX, and you will
see some slowdown. I don't see people complaining about Nascar 2, which
requires more horsepower to get the same frame rates as Nascar 1.

  Anyways, a D3D version is supposedly coming out soon. That will help
quite a bit.

  Personally, on my P133 w/ 4M Millenium, I find the frame rate fine with
only the sky turned off.

Daniel Howel

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Daniel Howel » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Processor speed alone is no safe measure of whether a game runs good or
not. I have a 200mmx with 64Mb of ram and a DS64 video vram graphics card
(and a 3dfx card, but that's beside the point with nfs2) and it rips along
quite happily. I have tried it on a Cyrix166+ with a 2mb cheapo virge
chipset graphics card and it was just about playable. Anything less and,
yes, unfortunately it looks like it may be too much.

I agree that nfs2 makes far greater demands on the system than nfs1 -
definately. I had nfs1 running lovely on a p133 earlier this year.

Have fun. Cheers,
Dan

Jo

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Jo » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00


> You  are so full of shit!! How do you know this guy isnt getting good
>framerates on NFS2 ?  

Because he's seen it running on faster computers, and the game is
still unbearably slow.

It does not.

Joe

Chris Moor

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Chris Moor » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Stop feeling sorry for yourself, Joe.  ***ing about how you can't run
it on your 200 won't solve anything.  The chip isn't everything.  If
you've ever looked inside a computer, you will see more than just a
little thingamajig that says Intel Pentium 200 on it.  All that other
stuff in there does stuff too.  Hardware setup is just as important as
your chip.  Obviously, there is something unique about my settings that
makes NFS2 a performer.
        Of course, you might be running some funky software that's eating up
your system's resources.  I don't know, I've never seen your system.
Lets stop this string before it gets boring for everyone else.

Chris

Matt

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Matt » Thu, 03 Jul 1997 04:00:00



> > You  are so full of shit!! How do you know this guy isnt getting good
> >framerates on NFS2 ?

> Because he's seen it running on faster computers, and the game is
> still unbearably slow.

> >I have it running on a K6-166 w/32 meg,stealth
> >3d2000 and it runs great!

> It does not.

> Joe

I have asked numerous times for you to post (or tell where to get)
something that will report the frame rate.  I say mine is fine and so do
some other people.  Then you come along playing God and say that it is
slow.  The only way for this thread to die is to either put up or
shutup.  I do not want, nor do I care about, your field experience or
what you have written.  If you cannot backup your claims with software,
then there is no point in us thinking that you are right.  You do not
know everything about people systems.  I think NFS2 runs great on my
system and yet since you cannot get it to run good on your P200, you
assume that it will not run good on any system.  I hate to inform you
that people can have different hardware that can improve performance.
You can come back with your 'x years field experience', but that doesn't
mean you know what you are talking about.  I am not saying that I know
what I am talking about.  I have talked to people with about the same
years field experience as you and some with more and they still do not
know that they are talking about.

I am not saying that your field experience doesn't mean something, but
it is time for proof.  I don't care what some magazine says, or your
frame rates that you pull out of your head.

It's time for this thread to die.  This is the only way that I can see
for it to die and not pop back up again later.

matt
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Jo

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Jo » Fri, 04 Jul 1997 04:00:00


>your chip.  Obviously, there is something unique about my settings that
>makes NFS2 a performer.

Obviously, you have low enough standards that to YOU it's a performer.
To anyone who requires a frame-rate of greater than 15 fps, it is not.

Joe

Sean Slat

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Sean Slat » Fri, 04 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Sony Playstation.

sean

Sean Slater

   http://www.jeack.com.au/~sslater/
   Melbourne, Australia

Pete

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Pete » Sat, 05 Jul 1997 04:00:00

Joe, I see your still at it! Until they do a patch so you
can use your 3dfx card why don't you try the game with a real video
card. That piece of ***ATI card you use just doesn't cut it. NFS2
works great on my 200MMX with 128 Lightspeed with all detail. Although
you called me a liar and blind in the past, I suggest you are the one
with a problem ie. your ATI

Pete



> >your chip.  Obviously, there is something unique about my settings that
> >makes NFS2 a performer.

> Obviously, you have low enough standards that to YOU it's a performer.
> To anyone who requires a frame-rate of greater than 15 fps, it is not.

> Joe

Jo

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Jo » Sat, 05 Jul 1997 04:00:00


>Joe, I see your still at it! Until they do a patch so you
>can use your 3dfx card why don't you try the game with a real video
>card. That piece of ***ATI card you use just doesn't cut it.

GMAFB. It is a fact that different 2d cards make only the tiniest
difference to performance, not even noticable to most people. And
besides, if my video card is so bad why does NFS 1 fly like lightning
on it? Answer that one brainiac.

Joe

Matt

NFS II .Yes or no ?

by Matt » Sat, 05 Jul 1997 04:00:00



> >Joe, I see your still at it! Until they do a patch so you
> >can use your 3dfx card why don't you try the game with a real video
> >card. That piece of ***ATI card you use just doesn't cut it.

> GMAFB. It is a fact that different 2d cards make only the tiniest
> difference to performance, not even noticable to most people. And
> besides, if my video card is so bad why does NFS 1 fly like lightning
> on it? Answer that one brainiac.

> Joe

You answered that question yourself.  NFS 1 is not as demanding on the
system as NFS2.  NFS 1 ran through DOS, whereas NFS2 runs through WIN95.
Think about it. There is more overhead to run under WIN95 than DOS.  Try
a different video card and you might be suprised.  
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