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The best Daytona 500 yet!

an..

The best Daytona 500 yet!

by an.. » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00



>>And thats a fact!
>It sure was. Too bad CBS still doesn't have their act together. Elliot
>was in 4th or 5th, they break for a commercial, come back, and now
>he's in first. CBS didn't even bother to show the replay! They still
>have a lot to learn from the Big Boys. ( ESPN, TNN, etc... )

>Don Turcotte

Well I dunno about TNN anymore,  CBS Baught them along with CMT
this past week....

Gaylord Ent. Sold out to them, So guess who's got their NASCAR dates?

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Chasma

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by Chasma » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00




> >> And thats a fact!

> >When is Nascar going to learn you can't beat the quality of ESPN. CBS
> >goes to a break with Marlin in the lead and when they come back he's
> not
> >even in the same time zone.

> NO Kidding And Ken Squire SUCKS he made at least 12 mistakes throuhout
> the brodcast and thank GOD for ned and buddy or I would have to watch it
> with NO sound...
> Mike Gillie

Next time CBS does a broadcast, try the picture on, sound off and listen
to it on MRN.  Those boys do justice to the race !

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MIRANDA GREENHIL

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by MIRANDA GREENHIL » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00


> Watched the race on television and listened to live RealAudio in-car
> radio transmissions through TheAutoChannel on my computer - Great race!

yes if earnhart would learn how to stay off the wall it would have
been great race he could have watched jarrett win it....
Scott Goud

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by Scott Goud » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00



> > And thats a fact!

>   This isn't really the place for this...but, here goes...

>   Obviously, you've never seen the 1976 500, the '79 race, and a few
> others...
>   Too bad that punk a$$ kid had to park Earnhardt in the fence to win
> it...I know, dale said he pushed up off the corner and bounced into
> "Jeffy", but I still think Gordon took 'im to the wall...
>   At least a Chevrolet won though...

My thoughts exactly.  Too bad Teresa Earnhardt didn't meet Brook
half way to victory lane and "push" her up into the fence.  
Scott
Scott Goud

The best Daytona 500 yet!

by Scott Goud » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00




> > > And thats a fact!

> >   This isn't really the place for this...but, here goes...

> >   Obviously, you've never seen the 1976 500, the '79 race, and a few
> > others...
> >   Too bad that punk a$$ kid had to park Earnhardt in the fence to win
> > it...I know, dale said he pushed up off the corner and bounced into
> > "Jeffy", but I still think Gordon took 'im to the wall...
> >   At least a Chevrolet won though...

> Never touched him befor Dale hit the wall.This is also true but he would have if Earnhardt hadn't slid up the

track.  Watch the replay and measure from the inside of the #24 car
to the wall.  Two cars would not fit in this space.  Gordon will get
his before the year is over.
Go Texas Terry.
Scott
John Jeppese

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by John Jeppese » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00




> >> And thats a fact!

> >When is Nascar going to learn you can't beat the quality of ESPN. CBS
> >goes to a break with Marlin in the lead and when they come back he's
> not
> >even in the same time zone.

> NO Kidding And Ken Squire SUCKS he made at least 12 mistakes throuhout
> the brodcast and thank GOD for ned and buddy or I would have to watch it
> with NO sound...
> Mike Gillie

Mike, I'm not sure what you mean when you say Ken Squier made a lot of
mistakes (from my seat, with 25 people talking all at once, I couldn't
hear much of anything anyway). I do know that Ken Squier has been around
racing for a very long time...and all racing fans owe him a lot as one of
the pioneers in motorsports television. And if you have seen anything
with the World Sports logo at the end of it, be aware that this is Ken's
company. And besides, if you spent 30 seconds in the TV truck and saw
what a madhouse it truly is to produce and call a live race, you would
definitely have a much different opinion of what's going on before it
hits the air.
bmoor

The best Daytona 500 yet!

by bmoor » Tue, 18 Feb 1997 04:00:00




>>And thats a fact!
>It sure was. Too bad CBS still doesn't have their act together. Elliot
>was in 4th or 5th, they break for a commercial, come back, and now
>he's in first. CBS didn't even bother to show the replay! They still
>have a lot to learn from the Big Boys. ( ESPN, TNN, etc... )

>Don Turcotte

then, ken squire couldn't even remember Ernie Ervins name and was
consistently screwing up the call.  I wish CBS would quit this part
time broadcasting of special sporting events.  They just dont do it
the justice it deserves.
bryan
Robert Johnso

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by Robert Johnso » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00



True enough.

The way it looked on my TV, Gordon was passing Dale, not the other way
around. Since when are you are supposed to slow down and let someone pass
you?

been.

Yep,  he was really aggressive, running in line like that.  Where he
shouldn't have been?  Gotta agree with you there.  I don't know the deal (
thanks for nothing CBS ) with his pit crew, but they had big trouble
yesterday.  Come in 1st, go out 9th.  Come in 3rd, go out 15th.  Yep, he
was right where he shouldn't have been.  He should have been in the lead,
and out of the pack, not coming up through it.

having the line so he stood his ground.

If he had slowed, not that he should have, Jarret would have ass-ended him.
 Hey, wait, that is what eventually happened, isn't it?

How can you call hitting someone who suddenly slows in front of you "
Freaking out "?  Ever race those AI cars?  He didn't freak, he just had
nowhere to go.  

What about when Grissom just ran Schrader into the infield instead of
letting him pass?  Dale Earnhardt did nothing like that. All he did was
hold his line as best he could and keep his foot down.  If Jeffy had been
able to keep his car on the bottom of the track there would not have been
an contact with Dale. Instead his car was up a full car width higher than
it should have been, so when Dale bounced off the wall, little Jeffy got
tagged.

At least part of Dale's car is part of history.  See that mark on Jeff's
passenger door?

Drbob

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by Drbob » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

     The end was more than a little disappointing.  Yellow flags and
teamwork wrote the story.  Bill Elliott deserved to win (and I'm a Chevy
guy).

      Maybe instead of restrictor plates they should make special narrow
tires for the "too fast"  tracks.  As it is restrictor plate racing is
definately a team sport.  Bill just didn't have a teammate.

                        bob

Jeff Davids

The best Daytona 500 yet!

by Jeff Davids » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00





> > > > And thats a fact!

> > >   This isn't really the place for this...but, here goes...

> > >   Obviously, you've never seen the 1976 500, the '79 race, and a few
> > > others...
> > >   Too bad that punk a$$ kid had to park Earnhardt in the fence to win
> > > it...I know, dale said he pushed up off the corner and bounced into
> > > "Jeffy", but I still think Gordon took 'im to the wall...
> > >   At least a Chevrolet won though...

> > Never touched him befor Dale hit the wall.This is also true but he would have if Earnhardt hadn't slid up the
> track.  Watch the replay and measure from the inside of the #24 car
> to the wall.  Two cars would not fit in this space.  Gordon will get
> his before the year is over.
> Go Texas Terry.
> Scott

        One additional note. By getting that close to #3 coming off the turn
#24 took the downforce away from Earnhardt creating the PUSH in his car. This
forced Earnhardt wide and made him lift to collect his car, and of course
Gordon gave him no room (mentioned above). Jeffy was even quoted in today's
paper saying that this was what he intended to do.

Jeff

zzonema

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by zzonema » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

: > >When is Nascar going to learn you can't beat the quality of ESPN.
CBS
: > >goes to a break with Marlin in the lead and when they come back
he's
: > not
: > >even in the same time zone.
: >
: > NO Kidding And Ken Squire SUCKS he made at least 12 mistakes
throuhout
: > the brodcast and thank GOD for ned and buddy or I would have to
watch it
: > with NO sound...
: > Mike Gillie
:
: Mike, I'm not sure what you mean when you say Ken Squier made a lot of
: mistakes (from my seat, with 25 people talking all at once, I couldn't
: hear much of anything anyway). I do know that Ken Squier has been
around
: racing for a very long time...and all racing fans owe him a lot as one
of
: the pioneers in motorsports television. And if you have seen anything
: with the World Sports logo at the end of it, be aware that this is
Ken's
: company. And besides, if you spent 30 seconds in the TV truck and saw
: what a madhouse it truly is to produce and call a live race, you would
: definitely have a much different opinion of what's going on before it
: hits the air.

        I used to give Ken the benefit of the doubt since he was broadcasting
NASCAR when NASCAR wasn't cool, but after the race Sunday, I wish CBS
would never broadcast another one.  Ken was horrible.  It seems that the
sport has passed him by and he's not willing to relearn it.
        They would flash to a shot of Earnhardt and Ken would say, "Here comes
Earnhardt" as three cars would pass him.  He goofed many times in
getting names with cars.  He tried to tell technical facts he had no
clue about.  Ken needs to step down and let the masters--Ned Jarrett,
Benny Parsons, Eli Gold and the others take over.  I wish I had set it
up in advance to listen to MRN and turn the volume down on the TV.
        And what about the year it rained and CBS decided to go to golf?  When
it stopped raining and they raced, CBS didn't go back.  ESPN and TNN
will wait all day for a race.  Sure, they'll broadcast the previous
year's race and keep checking in, but they show the race once it starts.

Brian Motisk

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by Brian Motisk » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

I also think cbs stands for commercial broadcasting station.  is it me
or was it show 6 to 8 laps of racing then go to commercial.  then come
back with a race summary because we missed 10 laps?  and squire got to
learn who's in what car and he's got to learn when someone loses the
draft its just that how many times did he say ohh whats wrong with this
one when they just simply got out of the draft.  buddy baker has got to
go as well.  I think he has hit just about every wall in the series.
they should stick them too in a booth and let them commentate their own
race.  If CBS wanted to have good commentating the should hire Mike Joy
Benny Parsons and bob jenkins.  Ned jarrett is cool but he's talks about
Dale Jarrett to much.  i know its his son but there are 42 other drivers
out there as well...One thing that is great though is the pit
reporters.  Jerry Punch John Kernan do a hell of a job......

Jimmy and Lis

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by Jimmy and Lis » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00

OK, here's more...

  Earnhardt held his line as "Jeffy" went under him.  Dale was where he
WAS, not "where he shouldn't have been".  Dale ain't gonna back off for
nobody; EVERYBODY knows that...:) As they came off the corner, both cars
pushed up, and Dale tagged the wall.  When he came off the wall, he
tagged "Jeffrey", hit the wall agin, and then back down in front of
Ernie.  Ernie, having no place to go, was hit from behind by "the other
Dale", Jarrett then sent Ernie into Earnhardt.  Irvan's car sent the 3
spinning wildly, and the way that the air got under Earnhardt just sent
him up and over Ernie.  Too bad "Jeffy" didn't get caught up in it like
Irvan and Jarrett.

  About the Grissom/Schrader thing:  Grissom just flat mirror-drove
Schrader to the grass.  By the time he tried get back up in the groove,
it was too late.  Schrader's LR got down off the track and it turned him
up into Grissom.  It was all Grissom's fault; he should have let Kenny
go by.

  As far as Elliott:  I was pulling for him and the 3.  We saw the old
Awesome Bill on Sunday; mixing it up.  He was pretty much all alone
against the team cars of Hendrick and Childress.

Tom Seiner 88fa

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by Tom Seiner 88fa » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00



> >NO Kidding And Ken Squire SUCKS he made at least 12 mistakes throuhout

> Counting broadcasting mistakes?

> Somebody needs a hobby....

How could you miss them???I did not count the mistakes but I know
there were more than 12.CBS,Ken's a nice guy but you need someone else
to announce these races.

88fan,
Tom Seiner

Travis Mogne

The best Daytona 500 yet!

by Travis Mogne » Wed, 19 Feb 1997 04:00:00



  Huh, Did you watch the race?? Irvan was BEHIND Jarrett and tapped Jarrett
 into Earnhardt.

--

Travis  


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