rec.autos.simulators

GPL2 would also be good, but since I dont are so good at all tracks in GPL
yet, it can wait a little time!!!!!!

CART Sim Features Sheet

Important ones denoted with *                                          

All tracks*                                            
Good but easy to use Track Editor                                      

All cars (none fictional)*                                              
Fantasy Tracks 8^)                                              
GPL Physics or N3 if not GPL*                                          
All teams (tobacco and *** if possible)*                            

native RENDITION support***                                            
drafting*                                              
3d***pits*                                            
3d Physics engine that simulates true CART handling*                    

Resolutions like 800x600 and 1024x768*                                  

Excellent car damage model so that no two crashes look alike*          

Realistic flip effects,like GPL and not Andretti Racing (boo)
Comprehensive car setups, including springs, shocks, camber, weight  jacker on
ovals, static ride height, dampers, rebounds, bump stops, etc.  *      

Realistic effects like bottoming out*                                  
Realistic debris that you can run over and damage your car on          

Random tire blowouts*                                  
Oil and other fluids from engine failures*                              

Fire (highly unlikely this will be allowed by CART)*                    

Realistic wall types and wall effects (Armco barriers do more damage than
concrete, tire walls do less damage than concrete, tire walls          

cause car to get airborne and flip more than concrete and armcos, etc.)*

Realistic gravel trap effects (Come on, you know you wanna do an Andretti at
Mid-Ohio, admit it...)*                                
Improved Paintkit*                                      
realistic sounds actually digitally recorded*                          

animated pit stops*                                    
area in pit road that can be drivin off into the infield to get to
victory lane..or garage*                                        
realistic***pit that has hand on wheel like GPL*                      

better frame rates/3d acceleration/1024x768 resolution*        

better engine, way more realistic damage to the car, the way the damage is
spread across the track in real life...fliping catchin air on other
tires*                                          
better smoke,skid marks and racing groove*,                            

possible damage of the catch fencing*                                  

RED FLAGS*                                              
animated workers on the track after a wreck...and if possible
ambulances or REAL tow-trucks*                                          
marks on the walls after a hit, animated flagmen*                      

more options to change on the car in garage                            

full field of cars*                                            
all the current tracks ( if possible...Indianapolis, since it rightfully is
CART's) *                                      
realistic lookin part-time road courses like with the closed off streets and
stuff*                                          
fire,fuel and oil leaks, (causin slippery race track)*                  

possible damage to the pit wall..*                                      

animated OPPONENT pit stops*                                            
more realistic AI cars*                                        
weather changes like durin the race, rain, wind, etc*                  

possible use of rain tires, and racing in the rain (regardless of if there was
rain that season or not*)      

<snip>

Don't forget the Banshee -- GREAT card, IMO!

-- JB

--

Jon   Van Ginneken

"I try to do my best every day. If, at the end of the day
I know I did the best job I could do, I am satisfied."

                                  --Alex Zanardi

<snip>

Rendition is DEAD!!!  DEAD I tell you DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Enough with it
already!!!
In no way, shape, or form is rendition more important than real physics.  Ammend
your list so Papy can see that we aren't dillusional!  Go out and buy a damn
Voodoo3 already, or at least a Voodoo2.

--

Jon   Van Ginneken

"I try to do my best every day. If, at the end of the day
I know I did the best job I could do, I am satisfied."

                                  --Alex Zanardi

Would you care for anything else?....<G>

-/-WW

Lutrell

No! No! Leave it or add D3D support! (One PC runs a 4MB Stealth II Rendition
(for GPL only of course), the other a Matrox G200, absolutely SMOKES in D3D,
40+ FPS)  I like my $30 rendition!

I disagree on the tobacco and *** advertising.  We ALREADY have enough
groups saying that computer games are warping our young people.  We don't need
to give them any more ammunition...

I thought that was an OLD card...?

[snip]

Agreed

Why not?

You want to DRIVE into Victory lane?  Why?  That just takes more time away from
RACING!<g>

Ok, this might be fun to see once or twice - after that, I think most people
would turn these effects OFF.

And when would WE see the AI pit stops?  Are you going to watch the race
replay?  I like the changing weather, though.

Eldred

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Put your message in a modem, and throw it in the ***-sea...
remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Of course it should have tobacco/***/whatever ads. We are talking
about sims, not about toys.

People should realise that a sim or a modelcar or a modelkit is meant as a
copy that is as exact as possible, not a toy to give to a 5-year old boy.
Therefore, all racing sims and minichamps-cars should have the proper
Winfield/West/Mildseven/Whatever ads, all WW II kits of german
tanks/planes/trains  should have swastikas if they had them in reality
etc.

Can't those politicians understand that I don't start smoking if I would
buy a JPS-sponsored Lotus 79 car-model or that I won't join the KKK or
something else if I built a Tiger-tank with a swastika on in???

Greetings,
hgrm

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remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Cheers,
     /ft

To me that doesn't really matter.  It simply doesn't happen that often in
CART racing to make it worthwhile to include in the game.

Yes, especially considering all the different types they use to protect
drivers. :)

As long as they don't fly as well as GPL cars. :)  Sometimes I think even
Michael Jordan would be jealous of how the GPL cars can take off. :)

Yup!

Yeah, but if you have just won a virtual 500 miler at Michigan or a hard
fought battle in the streets of Detroit, dont you want the satisfaction? ;)

Dunno, I definetly want to see the "widescreen" setup that GPL uses for a
view as it definetly gives more peripheral vision.

I would...especially if they are just 2D animated bitmaps.  If its full 3d
models, probably not..immersion factor and all. :)  I'd like to feel like I
was Michael Andretti. :)

Cheers,
     /ft

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited