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Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

Alison Hi

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Alison Hi » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing
Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing
all of Steve's latest F2 setups.

Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race,
Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups,
the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb,
readily recover from seriously sideways sides.  Midcorner understeer is
almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank.  And they
respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go.

Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't
suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are
superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups!

If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced
Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's
physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started
using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up
enjoying them more than the F1 cars!  Most of my time now is spent in F2
cars.  

With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver
performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly
quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967
Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision
- but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and
they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble!

Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are
fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because
of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some
tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of
racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL.

You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my
GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or
against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC.

Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did!

You'll find them at:

  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone.
Mmmmm!

Alison


http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Alan Orto

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Alan Orto » Thu, 28 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Thanks for the Info Alison. :)

> Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing
> Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing
> all of Steve's latest F2 setups.

> Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race,
> Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups,
> the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb,
> readily recover from seriously sideways sides.  Midcorner understeer is
> almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank.  And they
> respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go.

> Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't
> suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are
> superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups!

> If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced
> Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's
> physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started
> using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up
> enjoying them more than the F1 cars!  Most of my time now is spent in F2
> cars.

> With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver
> performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly
> quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967
> Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision
> - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and
> they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble!

> Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are
> fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because
> of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some
> tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of
> racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL.

> You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my
> GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or
> against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC.

> Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did!

> You'll find them at:

>   http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone.
> Mmmmm!

> Alison


> http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Michael Horto

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Michael Horto » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

So you are still alive and kicking Alan. Guess the rumors weren't true then
<VBG> BTW I downloaded Steve's setups (as well as putting a link to it on my
site) so you better watch out next time you're lapping me. I might actually
be able to stay on your tail momentarily <G>

--
Michael Horton
Webmaster of
http://www.racesimcentral.net/
GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps

and

http://www.racesimcentral.net/
HTML for Begineers

> Thanks for the Info Alison. :)


> > Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing
> > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing
> > all of Steve's latest F2 setups.

> > Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race,
> > Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups,
> > the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb,
> > readily recover from seriously sideways sides.  Midcorner understeer is
> > almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank.  And they
> > respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go.

> > Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't
> > suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are
> > superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups!

> > If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced
> > Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's
> > physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started
> > using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up
> > enjoying them more than the F1 cars!  Most of my time now is spent in F2
> > cars.

> > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver
> > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly
> > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967
> > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision
> > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and
> > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble!

> > Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are
> > fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because
> > of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some
> > tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of
> > racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL.

> > You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my
> > GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or
> > against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC.

> > Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did!

> > You'll find them at:

> >   http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone.
> > Mmmmm!

> > Alison


> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Bria

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Bria » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Thanks for the tip.  I just downloaded the set-ups and tried a few tracks -
great fun.  I tried the F3 cars a while back and found them a bit too tame
(not enough power to use the throttle to steer).  With the F2 cars, I can
actually race side-by-side and pass the AI at the Ring - even along that
narrow downhill section with the sticky bushes on the left!

Brian


Alan Orto

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Alan Orto » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Hehe, Mike. I'm around just not as much as before, i'm getting bored
with GPL I guess you could say. :(  But these setup's are good. I ran a
test at silverstone with a ferrari, I found out my old setup's suck. I
posted a New PB by almost a full second with the new setups. I'll
probably stop in for a F2 race in the near future to check these things
out thoroughly.
Cya soon.
Don't under estimate yourself, Mike.
You smoked me in the point standings. :)

> So you are still alive and kicking Alan. Guess the rumors weren't true then
> <VBG> BTW I downloaded Steve's setups (as well as putting a link to it on my
> site) so you better watch out next time you're lapping me. I might actually
> be able to stay on your tail momentarily <G>

> --
> Michael Horton
> Webmaster of
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> GPL F2/F3 Hotlaps

> and

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> HTML for Begineers


> > Thanks for the Info Alison. :)


> > > Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing
> > > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing
> > > all of Steve's latest F2 setups.

> > > Drawing on his vast experience with real cars, both street and race,
> > > Steve has meticulously tuned each car for each track. With these setups,
> > > the cars glide effortlessly over the bumps, bang over curbs with aplomb,
> > > readily recover from seriously sideways sides.  Midcorner understeer is
> > > almost entirely eliminated, yet the cars are stable as a tank.  And they
> > > respond; the harder you drive them, the faster they go.

> > > Some of the setups Steve published with his Advanced Setup Guide didn't
> > > suit my style, but all of the ones I've tried from his F2 Superguide are
> > > superb. He's done a fantastic job with these setups!

> > > If you haven't tried the F2 cars - known in GPL as the "Advanced
> > > Trainers" - you're in for a treat. These are the cars which GPL's
> > > physics guru, Dave Kaemmer, calls "the most fun cars in GPL". I started
> > > using the F2 cars to learn tracks - Monaco in particular - and wound up
> > > enjoying them more than the F1 cars!  Most of my time now is spent in F2
> > > cars.

> > > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver
> > > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly
> > > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967
> > > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision
> > > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and
> > > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble!

> > > Racing F2 cars online on VROC, I've found that driving mistakes are
> > > fewer, and warping is somewhat less due to lower accelerations. Because
> > > of this, the racing is closer and often very exciting. I've had some
> > > tremendous, flag to flag duels in recent weeks - exactly the kind of
> > > racing I had always hoped to experience in GPL.

> > > You can race the F2 cars offline against the AI (see section 5.3 of my
> > > GPL FAQ), and you can race them online too, in single-class races or
> > > against the GP and F3 ("Basic Trainer") cars in online races at VROC.

> > > Give Steve's F2 setups a try. I guarantee you'll be glad you did!

> > > You'll find them at:

> > >   http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > > I suggest you start with the Ferrari at Zandvoort and Silverstone.
> > > Mmmmm!

> > > Alison


> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Chris

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Chris » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

You aren't trying hard enough. :)

Roger La

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Roger La » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I dunno about the new F2 setups. I tried it but my Microsoft FF wheel went
all over the place. Most unusual. The cars wanted to fish tail all the time.
:( Using the default FF settings. Any solutions?

Roger

Michael Barlo

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Michael Barlo » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> > I tried the F3 cars a while back and found them a bit too tame
> > (not enough power to use the throttle to steer).

> You aren't trying hard enough. :)

        Another possible reason why they feel so dull/underpowered/slow/ect..
could be because of the sound file that originally came with the Racing
Sim.  Download an F2F3 engine sound from the net.  Believe me it make a
word of difference!
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Scott B. Huste

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Scott B. Huste » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

I can't believe you wimps are still running those training wheels Barlow!  ;)
ROFLMAO

Scott
PA-Scott

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Michael Barlo

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Michael Barlo » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00


> I can't believe you wimps are still running those training wheels Barlow!  ;)
> ROFLMAO

        If I can brag a bit.. I've converted a couple of the GPL pro's to
dedicated F3 pro's ;-))  They may be slow, but they put on a better show
then the F1's normally do ;-)

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Racing online with the help of......

Race Communications Association
Holodyne Engineering
Mystic Music
(have Your !!Name/Address!! placed here)

Dave Henri

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Dave Henri » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

  Whats the URL of the F2 guide?  I went to my bookmark for Simracing
Online and the site looked like it hadn't been updated since 1998.  
I "must/may" have an out of date address???
dave henrie

> Thanks for the tip.  I just downloaded the set-ups and tried a few tracks -
> great fun.  I tried the F3 cars a while back and found them a bit too tame
> (not enough power to use the throttle to steer).  With the F2 cars, I can
> actually race side-by-side and pass the AI at the Ring - even along that
> narrow downhill section with the sticky bushes on the left!

> Brian



> > Steve Smith has published his F2 Superguide, kindly hosted by SimRacing
> > Online. At the F2 Superguide you can download a Zip archive containing
> > all of Steve's latest F2 setups.

> > With 270 hp and slightly less grip than the GP cars, these cars deliver
> > performance similar to the 1965 Grand Prix cars. They are surprisingly
> > quick, and a great deal of fun. In contrast to the brutish, *** 1967
> > Grand Prix cars, GPL's F2 cars favor finesse, smoothness, and precision
> > - but they have plenty of power to allow you to toss them around, and
> > they are plenty quick enough to get you into trouble!

Graeme Nas

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Graeme Nas » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Agreed, the F2's can be *extremely* entertaining... I've had some superb
races with them on and offline. I can't stand the F3's but the F2's are
great.

Although they do tend to mess up my F1 driving if I stick with them for
too long :-)

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Mark Seer

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Mark Seer » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

Come and join us Scott.
Be warned though. Ya might find yourself getting smoked <G>

Mark


Steve Rosk

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Steve Rosk » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

 Download an F2F3 engine sound from the net.  Believe me it make a

I'm having trouble finding F2 sounds, any URL suggestions?  Also, do the F2
sounds have to be put in to replace the existing F1 sounds?

Robert Grave

Steve Smith's F2 Superguide

by Robert Grave » Fri, 29 Oct 1999 04:00:00

http://www.simracing.com/f2superguide/

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