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real world setups transferred to Sims

Dave Henri

real world setups transferred to Sims

by Dave Henri » Tue, 08 Jul 2003 22:43:02

  I finally got  a chance to watch the Cleveland Cart race.  One thing I
noticed was the near oval like camber settings the cars had.  the outside
wheels were set to a negative camber and the inside(right) were set to a
positive camber of near equal angles.  Cleveland's turns are almost all
right handers so shading the camber would make sense, but I don't recall
seeing suc parallel wheels like that on a road course../   /  
  On tracks that have a pre-*** right or left-handedness, would a
positive/negative camber help more than a negative/negative camber?
dave henrie
Steve Smit

real world setups transferred to Sims

by Steve Smit » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:38:11

You'd generally dial the camber in according to the TAT (temps across the
tread), fine-tuned by some empirical experience, so, sure, you might wind up
with neg/pos cambers.


Pete Panai

real world setups transferred to Sims

by Pete Panai » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:47:13


> I finally got  a chance to watch the Cleveland Cart race.  One thing I
> noticed was the near oval like camber settings the cars had.  the outside
> wheels were set to a negative camber and the inside(right) were set to a
> positive camber of near equal angles.  Cleveland's turns are almost all
> right handers so shading the camber would make sense, but I don't recall
> seeing suc parallel wheels like that on a road course../   /

Hehe... I just got back from that race yesterday. One of my best friend Ken
B. works for Walker Racing. He is in charge of Data Acquisition for Darren
Manning's #15 car.
He took me and my buddy into an air conditioned trailer and showed us
telemetry info on a laptop for the qualifying session. What cool stuff. VERY
detailed!
Sorry, I get e***d easily, oops.  <;)  Anyway, I did notice the same thing
with the camber, I guess it should work the same in Sims.

Since he is directly involved in the car setup at every circuit, I will call
him tonight in Indy and try to get more info on this...

On a side note, is it okay to attach a picture or two to posts in this
newsgroup? If so, what is the best size to make 'em?

Pete Panaia
Animator \ 3D Artist

Stuart Becktel

real world setups transferred to Sims

by Stuart Becktel » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:51:16

Not really okay to post in this group...theres a binaries group that you
should link too. Main reason it isn't okay is that everyone would have to
download it, and only a select few might be interested.


> > I finally got  a chance to watch the Cleveland Cart race.  One thing I
> > noticed was the near oval like camber settings the cars had.  the
outside
> > wheels were set to a negative camber and the inside(right) were set to a
> > positive camber of near equal angles.  Cleveland's turns are almost all
> > right handers so shading the camber would make sense, but I don't recall
> > seeing suc parallel wheels like that on a road course../   /

> Hehe... I just got back from that race yesterday. One of my best friend
Ken
> B. works for Walker Racing. He is in charge of Data Acquisition for Darren
> Manning's #15 car.
> He took me and my buddy into an air conditioned trailer and showed us
> telemetry info on a laptop for the qualifying session. What cool stuff.
VERY
> detailed!
> Sorry, I get e***d easily, oops.  <;)  Anyway, I did notice the same
thing
> with the camber, I guess it should work the same in Sims.

> >   On tracks that have a pre-*** right or left-handedness, would a
> > positive/negative camber help more than a negative/negative camber?

> Since he is directly involved in the car setup at every circuit, I will
call
> him tonight in Indy and try to get more info on this...

> On a side note, is it okay to attach a picture or two to posts in this
> newsgroup? If so, what is the best size to make 'em?

> Pete Panaia
> Animator \ 3D Artist

Pete Panai

real world setups transferred to Sims

by Pete Panai » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 01:59:53


> Not really okay to post in this group...theres a binaries group that you
> should link too. Main reason it isn't okay is that everyone would have to
> download it, and only a select few might be interested.

Cool, I'm glad I asked.
Thanks  ;)
____________
Pete Panaia
Animator / 3D Artist
Goy Larse

real world setups transferred to Sims

by Goy Larse » Wed, 09 Jul 2003 04:47:13


> On a side note, is it okay to attach a picture or two to posts in this
> newsgroup? If so, what is the best size to make 'em?

Just adding something to Stuart's reply here, there's also the fact that
many ISP's, such as mine, strip binary attachments (pics etc) from posts
in non binary groups, so I wouldn't get to see it even though I might be
interested

Therefor it makes more sense to post them in
alt.binaries.simulators.autos which is the binary "twin" to this group
so to speak

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

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J. Todd Wass

real world setups transferred to Sims

by J. Todd Wass » Thu, 10 Jul 2003 13:20:30


>Date: 7/7/03 11:47 AM Central Daylight Time


>> I finally got  a chance to watch the Cleveland Cart race.  One thing I
>> noticed was the near oval like camber settings the cars had.  the outside
>> wheels were set to a negative camber and the inside(right) were set to a
>> positive camber of near equal angles.  Cleveland's turns are almost all
>> right handers so shading the camber would make sense, but I don't recall
>> seeing suc parallel wheels like that on a road course../   /

>Hehe... I just got back from that race yesterday. One of my best friend Ken
>B. works for Walker Racing. He is in charge of Data Acquisition for Darren
>Manning's #15 car.
>He took me and my buddy into an air conditioned trailer and showed us
>telemetry info on a laptop for the qualifying session. What cool stuff. VERY
>detailed!
>Sorry, I get e***d easily, oops.  <;)  Anyway, I did notice the same thing
>with the camber, I guess it should work the same in Sims.

>>   On tracks that have a pre-*** right or left-handedness, would a
>> positive/negative camber help more than a negative/negative camber?

>Since he is directly involved in the car setup at every circuit, I will call
>him tonight in Indy and try to get more info on this...

>On a side note, is it okay to attach a picture or two to posts in this
>newsgroup? If so, what is the best size to make 'em?

>Pete Panaia
>Animator \ 3D Artist

Fantastic, Pete!  I'm very jealous! :-D

If you want to, email the pictures to me and I'll post them at my site (after
studying them carefully, of course ;-)), then put a link here.  Seems a bit
more direct and simple than going through the binaries group.


Todd Wasson
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