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by **Jan Verschuere** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 09:23:27

Well Asbj?rn, thanks for the info but now you've got me curious... what does
a 3-time online (GPL) GP winner think of the physics and the simulation
aspect of the game?

Jan.
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by **Eldre** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 10:26:57

> My son has a friend who will be getting it and the Logitech wheel. HE is
>going to bring it over because he knows I'm such a sim-head...That little

>sort of***pit or nose cam....I can't, in good consceinse(sp?), fly a
>hang-glider behind a car.

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by **Asbj?rn Bj?rnst** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 11:30:02

> Well Asbj?rn, thanks for the info but now you've got me curious... what does
> a 3-time online (GPL) GP winner think of the physics and the simulation
> aspect of the game?

Lol. Yea, I'm a big-shot all right..
I've only played it for a couple of hours, and I have mostly played it
with a joypad, which doesn't really give that car feeling. I have
played one or two races with the logi wheel. As I'm used to the old
logi wheel which I find much nicer I don't know if it is the wheel or
the game that is to blame, but the feel was not as good as I
expected. The whole thing felt mushy. It was almost better to use the
joypad, actually.

As for the simulation. The only part of the game where realistic driving
techniques pay off is in the license tests. In the races themselves:
Who cares about car setup, just buy some addons and make the car more
powerful. As for lines, the fastest line through a corner is to not
brake, but to t-bone another car in the middle of the turn, or just
bounce off some walls. I usually drive "proper" anyway, but it is
frustrating.
Physics; I don't know. I don't think it really matters, though.
It's an arcade game, and the physics are good enough for that.

I used to play GT1 a lot. Just loved that Viper... But GT3 was just
too little improvement on GT1. I was expecting more. I was considering
buying GT3 and a PS2, but after trying it out, I'm not so sure.
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by **Jesse Blac** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:00:32

So the next generation of racing sims has no***pit view? Interesting. I
like how Alain says he doesn't know how good or complete the physics are,
but calls it a great sim because of graphics and "so many damn cars to
choose from". Oh well, I judge my sims with a different set of standards
than how many cars it has. But then again, everyone has their opinion on
which sim is the best, so go with what you like. Not like I should be able
to stop you from playing the game.

JB

by **Douglas Elliso** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:57:18

GT3 may very well be the very best game ever. I'm not spending 300 on the
console, 50 on a decent whell and 40 on the game for the privalage of
playing it.

Doug

by **Douglas Elliso** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 18:58:52

> > Uh... ok, I just re-read my post and I admit that I got carried away...
> > sorry about that.

> I've seen and raced it. It's nothing more then an evolution, a step from
> the original PSX games. It's great fun, but it's far away in realism
> compared to most of the serious PC simulators

"The serious PC Simulators"

Err - I know of 2 of them. GPL and N4. Any other takers?

Doug

by **Nodd** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:17:13

> probably because the company that makes the Gran Tourismo games has no pc
>experience. They are strictly console developers. And since GT3 is a
>premier title, designed to increase console sales, it probably means the
>developers are constrained from providing this title to any other format.
> My son has a friend who will be getting it and the Logitech wheel. HE is
>going to bring it over because he knows I'm such a sim-head...That little

>sort of***pit or nose cam....I can't, in good consceinse(sp?), fly a
>hang-glider behind a car.
>dave henrie

If it doesn't have a***pit then it's not even a contender as a sim.

by **Nodd** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:18:40

Pfft! Good thing it's not being ported to then PC then, not many PC
users would buy a racing game with no***pit.

by **Nodd** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:22:17

>You simply can't find a PC game that comes close to GT3 in it's
>completeness.

It doesn't even have a***pit. How is that complete? Sounds like a
kids arcade game to me. Yes, I'm a snob and proud of it too.

by **Nodd** » Tue, 10 Jul 2001 23:24:47

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 01:48:58 +0200, "Jan Verschueren"

>Now Dice's "Project Australia" (Aussie touring cars using the STCC2 engine),
>that might be something if it ever materialises.

Now that has me interested! Any links to info on this one?

by **ymenar** » Wed, 11 Jul 2001 00:45:24

> > I've seen and raced it. It's nothing more then an evolution, a step
from
> > the original PSX games. It's great fun, but it's far away in realism
> > compared to most of the serious PC simulators

> "The serious PC Simulators"

> Err - I know of 2 of them. GPL and N4. Any other takers?

MBTR, F1CS2k, Rally Championship, F1RC, GP3, SCGT, Ratbag games, etc...
(going towards less serious sims)

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by **Nodd** » Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:08:34

On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 16:10:22 +0100, Derek James

>www.dice.se has a small taster.

Thx.

Oh well, maybe it will be available at an online vendor.

Is it? Damn. Someone I know just went to the UK yesterday and I asked
them to bring me back STCC2.

by **Nodd** » Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:11:50

On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 11:45:24 -0400, "ymenard"

>MBTR, F1CS2k, Rally Championship, F1RC, GP3, SCGT, Ratbag games, etc...
>(going towards less serious sims)

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by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Wed, 11 Jul 2001 01:11:32

> >there's the grill-view, yes. no hood-cam or in-car views,
> >unfortunately.

> Pfft! Good thing it's not being ported to then PC then, not many PC
> users would buy a racing game with no***pit.

so don't buy it, shut up, and let me have my fun. problem solved.

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