rec.autos.simulators

by **David G Fishe** » Mon, 05 Jul 2004 08:59:40

Congratulations to Ginger, Neil, and Eldred. Only three yellows in a pretty
intense, 50% race.

Track: DAYTONA INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY
Date: 07/03/04

Session: Practice

P # DRIVER TIME
1 1 Mitch_RAS 47.069
2 2 tpaullin 47.074
3 99 Elrikk 47.094
4 98 LTB-Racer 47.109
5 65 Pat Cardiff 47.117
6 19 DaveGF 47.374
7 7 Dick-Trickle 47.400
8 45 Bamadano 47.515
9 42 bluestringer 47.538
10 6 Neil__C 47.923
11 26 epickett 48.148
12 11 LizardspitRAS 48.685
13 07 mcfadds 49.096
14 27 BOster 54.254
15 13 ShepherdRAS 57.223

Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph

Session: Qualifying

P # DRIVER TIME
1 13 ShepherdRAS 48.610
2 27 BOster 48.621
3 98 LTB-Racer 48.625
4 7 Dick-Trickle 48.631
5 19 DaveGF 48.659
6 45 Bamadano 48.699
7 42 bluestringer 48.724
8 6 Neil__C 48.726
9 11 LizardspitRAS 48.732
10 2 tpaullin 48.739
11 1 Mitch_RAS 48.754
12 65 Pat Cardiff 48.789
13 07 mcfadds 48.837
14 26 epickett 48.867
15 99 Elrikk 48.911

Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph

Session: Happy Hour

P # DRIVER TIME

Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph

Session: Race
OFFICIAL STANDINGS

F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS
1 4 7 Dick-Trickle 159.784 100 52* 185 Running
2 8 6 Neil__C -3.63 100 4 175 Running
3 14 26 epickett -15.17 100 10 170 Running
4 7 42 bluestringer -32.23 100 7 165 Running
5 6 45 Bamadano -1L 99 15 160 Running
6 10 2 tpaullin -1L 99 0 150 Running
7 5 19 DaveGF -1L 99 0 146 Running
8 11 1 Mitch_RAS -2L 98 1 147 Running
9 12 65 Pat Cardiff -2L 98 0 138 Running
10 9 11 LizardspitRAS -2L 98 1 139 Running
11 1 13 ShepherdRAS -53L 47 10 135 Accident
12 15 99 Elrikk -80L 20 0 127 Retired
13 3 98 LTB-Racer -86L 14 0 124 Accident
14 2 27 BOster -94L 6 0 121 Valve
15 13 07 mcfadds -98L 2 0 118 Retired

Caution Flags: 3 (11 laps)
Lead Changes: 22 (8 drivers)
Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph
Pitstop Frequency: 1x

PENALTIES
LAP # INFRACTION PENALTY
16 99 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line
16 99 Unsafe pit exit Go to end of longest line
22 99 Unsafe pit entrance Held for 30 seconds
51 45 Speeding in pits Go to end of longest line
87 19 Speeding in pits Drive through pit lane

by **bluestringe** » Mon, 05 Jul 2004 10:11:38

I was behind Eldred coming out of the pits on that final stop and I believe
we could have caught Ginger and Neil if I hadn't screwed up and pulled up in
front of a lap car coming out of two. Spun us both, and I lost my draft with
Eldred. It was a great race, very intense, lots of give and take by
everyone.

James
aka...bluestringer

by **Larr** » Wed, 07 Jul 2004 02:02:39

Well, my typical luck for races I spend in excess of 10 hours preparing for
continued. EVERY single race I've prepped more than 10 hours for I've been
knocked out of within 10 laps :(

I still don't know what happened up front, but Dave had to let up suddenly.
I did the same to keep from wiping him out, and then I got hit from behind.
I don't think I got hit that hard, but I got warp-slammed into the outside
wall and lost my motor. For a race running moderate damage I got the ***
knocked out of me. The hood was up as high as I'd ever seen it, and the
motor was immeidately killed.

As good as Papy's online racing system is, the collision detection remains
it's weakest point, sending cars flying through the air and into walls and
each other at 400mph at will.

The game got me more than anything else, but I sure would like to know why
the line slowed up so suddenly. I never saw a reason for it.

-Larry

by **Mitch_** » Wed, 07 Jul 2004 03:50:08

I'd call it accordion effect from guys giving each other a break. Problem
is the farther you get back the less reaction time to work with. I run in
***pit and its pretty hard to see ahead more than a car or two ahead at any
given time.

I was trying pretty hard to make the high line work but unfortunately I got
a bit closer to Ginger than I probably should have. I got surprised to see
him come back a few inches so I had to totally lift which caused my front
end to get squirrelly and I couldn't save it resulting in Dave and I (maybe
others) getting spun to the infield. I didnt sustain any damage but without
a yellow flag I lost a couple laps trying to get up to speed. Thanks Tim
for slowing up enough for us to draft back up.

I still had a blast though. Pretty intense stuff 2X2 lap after lap. Only a
few (2 IIRC but no flag on another) cautions on a 50% race

Great race Ginger Neil and Eldred on your podium finishes.

Mitch

> Well, my typical luck for races I spend in excess of 10 hours preparing
for
> continued. EVERY single race I've prepped more than 10 hours for I've
been
> knocked out of within 10 laps :(

> I still don't know what happened up front, but Dave had to let up
suddenly.
> I did the same to keep from wiping him out, and then I got hit from
behind.
> I don't think I got hit that hard, but I got warp-slammed into the outside
> wall and lost my motor. For a race running moderate damage I got the ***
> knocked out of me. The hood was up as high as I'd ever seen it, and the
> motor was immeidately killed.

> As good as Papy's online racing system is, the collision detection remains
> it's weakest point, sending cars flying through the air and into walls
and
> each other at 400mph at will.

> The game got me more than anything else, but I sure would like to know why
> the line slowed up so suddenly. I never saw a reason for it.

> -Larry

> > Congratulations to Ginger, Neil, and Eldred. Only three yellows in a
> pretty
> > intense, 50% race.

> > Track: DAYTONA INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY
> > Date: 07/03/04

> > Session: Practice

> > P # DRIVER TIME
> > 1 1 Mitch_RAS 47.069
> > 2 2 tpaullin 47.074
> > 3 99 Elrikk 47.094
> > 4 98 LTB-Racer 47.109
> > 5 65 Pat Cardiff 47.117
> > 6 19 DaveGF 47.374
> > 7 7 Dick-Trickle 47.400
> > 8 45 Bamadano 47.515
> > 9 42 bluestringer 47.538
> > 10 6 Neil__C 47.923
> > 11 26 epickett 48.148
> > 12 11 LizardspitRAS 48.685
> > 13 07 mcfadds 49.096
> > 14 27 BOster 54.254
> > 15 13 ShepherdRAS 57.223

> > Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph

> > Session: Qualifying

> > P # DRIVER TIME
> > 1 13 ShepherdRAS 48.610
> > 2 27 BOster 48.621
> > 3 98 LTB-Racer 48.625
> > 4 7 Dick-Trickle 48.631
> > 5 19 DaveGF 48.659
> > 6 45 Bamadano 48.699
> > 7 42 bluestringer 48.724
> > 8 6 Neil__C 48.726
> > 9 11 LizardspitRAS 48.732
> > 10 2 tpaullin 48.739
> > 11 1 Mitch_RAS 48.754
> > 12 65 Pat Cardiff 48.789
> > 13 07 mcfadds 48.837
> > 14 26 epickett 48.867
> > 15 99 Elrikk 48.911

> > Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph

> > Session: Happy Hour

> > P # DRIVER TIME

> > Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph

> > Session: Race
> > OFFICIAL STANDINGS

> > F S # DRIVER INTERVAL LAPS LED POINTS STATUS
> > 1 4 7 Dick-Trickle 159.784 100 52* 185 Running
> > 2 8 6 Neil__C -3.63 100 4 175 Running
> > 3 14 26 epickett -15.17 100 10 170 Running
> > 4 7 42 bluestringer -32.23 100 7 165 Running
> > 5 6 45 Bamadano -1L 99 15 160 Running
> > 6 10 2 tpaullin -1L 99 0 150 Running
> > 7 5 19 DaveGF -1L 99 0 146 Running
> > 8 11 1 Mitch_RAS -2L 98 1 147 Running
> > 9 12 65 Pat Cardiff -2L 98 0 138 Running
> > 10 9 11 LizardspitRAS -2L 98 1 139 Running
> > 11 1 13 ShepherdRAS -53L 47 10 135 Accident
> > 12 15 99 Elrikk -80L 20 0 127 Retired
> > 13 3 98 LTB-Racer -86L 14 0 124 Accident
> > 14 2 27 BOster -94L 6 0 121 Valve
> > 15 13 07 mcfadds -98L 2 0 118 Retired

> > Caution Flags: 3 (11 laps)
> > Lead Changes: 22 (8 drivers)
> > Weather: Clear, 70 F, Southwest 0 mph
> > Pitstop Frequency: 1x

> > PENALTIES
> > LAP # INFRACTION PENALTY
> > 16 99 Entering closed pits Go to end of longest line
> > 16 99 Unsafe pit exit Go to end of longest line
> > 22 99 Unsafe pit entrance Held for 30 seconds
> > 51 45 Speeding in pits Go to end of longest line
> > 87 19 Speeding in pits Drive through pit lane

by **bluestringe** » Wed, 07 Jul 2004 05:03:25

I don't know what happened either Larry. I had to completely lift and tap
the brakes to keep from hitting the car in front a of me, Dave was behind me
and couldn't get slowed in time and away we go. Someone up front lifted big
time for something.

James
aka..bluestringer

by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 07 Jul 2004 07:31:32

Just 3 flags (5th time in last 8 races), and two were for blown engines.
Can't do much better than that.

--
David G Fisher

by **David G Fishe** » Wed, 07 Jul 2004 07:34:25

> > Well, my typical luck for races I spend in excess of 10 hours preparing
> for
> > continued. EVERY single race I've prepped more than 10 hours for I've
> been
> > knocked out of within 10 laps :(

> > I still don't know what happened up front, but Dave had to let up
> suddenly.
> > I did the same to keep from wiping him out, and then I got hit from
> behind.
> > I don't think I got hit that hard, but I got warp-slammed into the
outside
> > wall and lost my motor. For a race running moderate damage I got the
***
> > knocked out of me. The hood was up as high as I'd ever seen it, and the
> > motor was immeidately killed.

> > As good as Papy's online racing system is, the collision detection
remains
> > it's weakest point, sending cars flying through the air and into walls
> and
> > each other at 400mph at will.

> > The game got me more than anything else, but I sure would like to know
why
> > the line slowed up so suddenly. I never saw a reason for it.

> > -Larry

> I don't know what happened either Larry. I had to completely lift and tap
> the brakes to keep from hitting the car in front a of me, Dave was behind
me
> and couldn't get slowed in time and away we go. Someone up front lifted
big
> time for something.

> James
> aka..bluestringer

I looked at the replay, and from the***pit view, it seems that the car in
front of you thought for a second that the car above him might be coming
down, so he slowed.
--
David G Fisher

by **Eldre** » Thu, 08 Jul 2004 06:26:45

I'm not trying to be a jerk, because it was an enjoyable(although intense)
race. But, there were at least two incidents that didn't trigger a yellow for
some reason. Had a yellow come out for either, I might have actually been in
contention... :-(

Eldred
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by **bluestringe** » Thu, 08 Jul 2004 08:15:21

Yep, one of those was when I pulled up short on the 11 coming out of 2. If I
could have stayed in the draft with you Eldred, I'm sure we could have
caught the front 2.

bluestringer

by **Mitch_** » Thu, 08 Jul 2004 12:04:16

Im still scratching my head on the one I was involved in Eldred. Multi car
wrecks I thought would bring out a yellow flag but in both cases it didnt.
It woulda really helped me and a few others also.

Mitch

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