All there is is a blue bar that says draft. One thing I noticed is that the
tire marks on the track are grooved. No grooved tires in nascar. :-)
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/screens/0,10865,2875327,00.html?...
> > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> might
> > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.
> > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out "simulation".
> > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy even
> > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more options
> and
> > tweaks than anybody, bar none.
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2875327,00.html
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SB
> > Forgot to mention; the original Gamespot link
> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2875327,00.html
> > has a short streaming in-car video and a couple more downloadable
videos.
> > Worth a look; is that DH driving? ;-)
> > SB
> While the driving style does seem somewhat familiar, I think it
should
> be obvious to everyone that the demo driver was not DH...After all he did
> pass 2 maybee 3 cars before wrecking. I take great pride in being able
to
> totally trash a car WITHOUT having another vehicle involved. And as far
as
> being able to actually pass
I was patient for once and skipped the GF4 generation and have my sights set
on either the Radeon 9700 (which looks like it spanks the 4600 in AA
performance by a factor of 2) or if I can wait even longer the NV30 chip
which should leapfrog the 9700 given historic patterns. Either way, with a
new card and perhaps an AMD 2000+ I just MIGHT see F12K2 at 50 fps with
4xFSAA running 1280x1024 - 32-bit (fingers crossed). Hell, anything close
would be pure racing joy. ;0)
--
Joe Marques
-Larry
> Thanks,
> Alex
> > Sounds interesting! Looks like they have set out with Papy square in
> their
> > in sites, and this is a good thing for everyone, even if you are a
devote
> > Papy fan.
> > I say this because, to a certain degree, I think Papy has been resting
on
> > their laurels lately. Yes, the game has been freshened each year, but
> > nothing really spectacular has been improved.
> > Like the AI, which, IMHO, is actually getting _worse_, more canned, and
> > nearly impossible to drive with the way it is currently programmed.
> > And the canned damage, and the lack of additive repairs. I can
understand
> > not being able to model _every_ minute factor of damage, but geez, it's
> got
> > to get a lot better than it is. When you have 10 cars running around
the
> > track with the exact same damage level, running the exact same speeds,
> > looking the exact same way, it gets tiring and annoying.
> > I have one fear. I don't remember seeing the word "Multiplayer" come up
> > once, like it was decided beforehand to be a forbidden subject.
> > I for one would LOVE to see Ed Martin back here on RAS like he was when
> Heat
> > was the talk of the town. I have a feeling that with Sierra as the
> > publisher, he's going to be muzzled far more than he was in the old
days,
> > though, and that's a damned shame.
> > Papy is the king right now. We will all benifit from some serious
> > competition like this.
> > But, they HAVE to make the Multiplayer at least as good as Papy's, or
it's
> > not going to take off.
> > And if Sierra wants to charge $15 a month on their system, and re-create
> > what we had on TEN (with FULL ranking, tracking, scoring and tracking)
> then
> > I say cool. Where do I send the check.
> > -Larry
> > > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> > might
> > > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.
> > > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out
"simulation".
> > > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy
even
> > > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more
options
> > and
> > > tweaks than anybody, bar none.
> > > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2875327,00.html
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002
We aren't allowed the same 'rubbin is racin' action that the real guys have.
One little touch, and POW.... ZOOMMMM! You're off to the moon!
-Larry
> John
> > NASCAR Heat had descent multiplayer, I'm sure Ed MArtin will bring some
> > expertise over and hopefully give us something good. Actually, I'd go as
> far
> > to say NH has good multiplayer, but not nearly as good as Papy's
> > Thanks,
> > Alex
> > > Sounds interesting! Looks like they have set out with Papy square in
> > their
> > > in sites, and this is a good thing for everyone, even if you are a
> devote
> > > Papy fan.
> > > I say this because, to a certain degree, I think Papy has been resting
> on
> > > their laurels lately. Yes, the game has been freshened each year, but
> > > nothing really spectacular has been improved.
> > > Like the AI, which, IMHO, is actually getting _worse_, more canned,
and
> > > nearly impossible to drive with the way it is currently programmed.
> > > And the canned damage, and the lack of additive repairs. I can
> understand
> > > not being able to model _every_ minute factor of damage, but geez,
it's
> > got
> > > to get a lot better than it is. When you have 10 cars running around
> the
> > > track with the exact same damage level, running the exact same speeds,
> > > looking the exact same way, it gets tiring and annoying.
> > > I have one fear. I don't remember seeing the word "Multiplayer" come
up
> > > once, like it was decided beforehand to be a forbidden subject.
> > > I for one would LOVE to see Ed Martin back here on RAS like he was
when
> > Heat
> > > was the talk of the town. I have a feeling that with Sierra as the
> > > publisher, he's going to be muzzled far more than he was in the old
> days,
> > > though, and that's a damned shame.
> > > Papy is the king right now. We will all benifit from some serious
> > > competition like this.
> > > But, they HAVE to make the Multiplayer at least as good as Papy's, or
> it's
> > > not going to take off.
> > > And if Sierra wants to charge $15 a month on their system, and
re-create
> > > what we had on TEN (with FULL ranking, tracking, scoring and tracking)
> > then
> > > I say cool. Where do I send the check.
> > > -Larry
> > > > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you
guys
> > > might
> > > > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.
> > > > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out
> "simulation".
> > > > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy
> even
> > > > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more
> options
> > > and
> > > > tweaks than anybody, bar none.
-Larry
> Is it me or the graphics look very "grainy"? I have noticed the same thing
> regarding all the previous ISI titles.
> --
> Philippe "Philster" Sergerie
> > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> might
> > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.
> > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out "simulation".
> > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy even
> > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more options
> and
> > tweaks than anybody, bar none.
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html
> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).
> > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002
So if true, the one genre that already has a 1st rate sim from the
premier autosim developer on the planet, and is least in need of
competition or another product, now has one.
Be still my beating heart.
--
Joe Marques
> >Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out "simulation".
> >These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy even
> >mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more options
and
> >tweaks than anybody, bar none.
> So if true, the one genre that already has a 1st rate sim from the
> premier autosim developer on the planet, and is least in need of
> competition or another product, now has one.
> Be still my beating heart.
BTW, that's how grass is supposed to look (color wise).
--
Philippe "Philster" Sergerie
> -Larry
> > Yeah, I can already hear people complaining about the driver's arms in
the
> >***pit view.
> > Is it me or the graphics look very "grainy"? I have noticed the same
thing
> > regarding all the previous ISI titles.
> > --
> > Philippe "Philster" Sergerie
> > > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> > might
> > > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.
> > > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out
"simulation".
> > > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy
even
> > > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more
options
> > and
> > > tweaks than anybody, bar none.
> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html
> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).
> > > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002
Well they would have to acheive several things they have not done yet.
Such as dynamic weather that affects/effects some or all of a track. Model
smaller bumps in the track surface. (here is one they did with gpl but not
since) Produce different shaped chassis with separate handling
characteristics.
On a positive note...they already have the code needed for the <Jacque
Villenuve/Eddie Irvine/JPM>{pick one or all} first lap/first turn banzai
suicide move...they just have to repaint the Surtee's Honda.
dave henrie
pez
> > Maybe it's just me, but the F1 2002 demo I used felt like I was
> driving a
> > toy Barbie car. No realistic physics at all. The graphics were cheesy.
> Ran
> > it at 1024x768 on GF3 Ti card.
Joe McGinn
_____________________
Radical Entertainment
> >I hear ya there Joe. BUT . . . what if Papy decides to take a bite out
of
> >EA's bread and butter sim market and produce a modern open wheel sim?
Now
> >that would be nice.
> Oh I agree. Please, anything but JANS (Just Another Nascar Sim).
> Joe McGinn
> _____________________
> Radical Entertainment