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Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

Schoone

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Schoone » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:21:03

Link works fine here and I never paid for gamespot.


> Even worse. You also have to pay.




> > > Forgot to mention; the original Gamespot link

> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html

> > > has a short streaming in-car video and a couple more downloadable
> videos.
> > > Worth a look; is that DH driving? ;-)

> > Is it just me, or don't you have to register for that ?

> > --
> > Olav Malmin
> > remove .spam when replying

Joe Marque

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Joe Marque » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:23:55

Where did you see a reference to draft-meter?

--
Joe Marques


Alex Kihuran

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Alex Kihuran » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:27:38

Nope, JUST a***pit video...GOD DAMN! ;)

Thanks,
Alex

> Hmmm. No***pit screenshots.



> > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> might
> > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.

> > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out "simulation".
> > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy even
> > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more options
> and
> > tweaks than anybody, bar none.

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html

> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).
> > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002

Alex Kihuran

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Alex Kihuran » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:28:48

NASCAR Heat had descent multiplayer, I'm sure Ed MArtin will bring some
expertise over and hopefully give us something good. Actually, I'd go as far
to say NH has good multiplayer, but not nearly as good as Papy's

Thanks,
Alex

> Sounds interesting!  Looks like they have set out with Papy square in
their
> in sites, and this is a good thing for everyone, even if you are a devote
> Papy fan.

> I say this because, to a certain degree, I think Papy has been resting on
> their laurels lately.  Yes, the game has been freshened each year, but
> nothing really spectacular has been improved.

> Like the AI, which, IMHO, is actually getting _worse_, more canned, and
> nearly impossible to drive with the way it is currently programmed.

> And the canned damage, and the lack of additive repairs.  I can understand
> not being able to model _every_ minute factor of damage, but geez, it's
got
> to get a lot better than it is.  When you have 10 cars running around the
> track with the exact same damage level, running the exact same speeds,
> looking the exact same way, it gets tiring and annoying.

> I have one fear.  I don't remember seeing the word "Multiplayer" come up
> once, like it was decided beforehand to be a forbidden subject.

> I for one would LOVE to see Ed Martin back here on RAS like he was when
Heat
> was the talk of the town.  I have a feeling that with Sierra as the
> publisher, he's going to be muzzled far more than he was in the old days,
> though, and that's a damned shame.

> Papy is the king right now.  We will all benifit from some serious
> competition like this.

> But, they HAVE to make the Multiplayer at least as good as Papy's, or it's
> not going to take off.

> And if Sierra wants to charge $15 a month on their system, and re-create
> what we had on TEN (with FULL ranking, tracking, scoring and tracking)
then
> I say cool.  Where do I send the check.

> -Larry



> > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> might
> > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.

> > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out "simulation".
> > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy even
> > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more options
> and
> > tweaks than anybody, bar none.

> > http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2875327,00.html

> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
> > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002

Joe Marque

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Joe Marque » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:29:07

Watch the gameplay movie at the link posted above and enjoy the***pit
view.

--
Joe Marques


> Hmmm. No***pit screenshots.



> > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> might
> > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.

> > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out "simulation".
> > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy even
> > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more options
> and
> > tweaks than anybody, bar none.

> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html

> > ---
> > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).
> > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002

Steve Blankenshi

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Steve Blankenshi » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:31:44

You can see the streaming vid without registering; the DL's require it.

SB


> Link works fine here and I never paid for gamespot.



> > Even worse. You also have to pay.




> > > > Forgot to mention; the original Gamespot link

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2875327,00.html
Goy Larse

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Goy Larse » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:31:49


> NASCAR Heat had descent multiplayer, I'm sure Ed MArtin will bring some
> expertise over and hopefully give us something good. Actually, I'd go as far
> to say NH has good multiplayer, but not nearly as good as Papy's

Oh Ed Martin will bring some expertise, it is however not quite clear
just what kind of expertise he'll be bringing.....:-)

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Joe Marque

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Joe Marque » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:39:05


"Well short" of Papy?  Other than multiplayer, what is superior about the
Papy engine?  I'm not trolling here Steve, I'm seriously asking because
after playing GPL and most Nascar games (Nascar 1 through N2K2 - skipped N4)
as well as EA's F1 2K, F1 2K1 and now F12K2, I find F1 2002 to be the
superior product out of the whole lot.  As far as I'm concerned GPL is now
2nd best.

--
Joe Marques

jon

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by jon » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:46:04

ahhh. lemme try this again.


> You can see the streaming vid without registering; the DL's require it.

> SB



> > Link works fine here and I never paid for gamespot.



> > > Even worse. You also have to pay.




> > > > > Forgot to mention; the original Gamespot link

> http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/previews/0,10869,2875327,00.html

> > > > > has a short streaming in-car video and a couple more downloadable
> > > videos.
> > > > > Worth a look; is that DH driving? ;-)

> > > > Is it just me, or don't you have to register for that ?

> > > > --
> > > > Olav Malmin
> > > > remove .spam when replying

jon

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by jon » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:50:13

lol


> Nope, JUST a***pit video...GOD DAMN! ;)

> Thanks,
> Alex


> > Hmmm. No***pit screenshots.



> > > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> > might
> > > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.

> > > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out
"simulation".
> > > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy
even
> > > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more
options
> > and
> > > tweaks than anybody, bar none.

> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html

> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).
> > > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002

Schoone

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Schoone » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:52:57

Yes video of a good wrecker.  Seems the recovery from a spin was really easy
too but perhaps it's arcade mode.
Didn't see anything in the screen shots or video to make me move from Papy
though.


> Watch the gameplay movie at the link posted above and enjoy the***pit
> view.

> --
> Joe Marques



> > Hmmm. No***pit screenshots.



> > > Posted this in the Papyrus Nascar and Simulation forums, but you guys
> > might
> > > appreciate it also, considering you probably know who ISS is.

> > > Gotta read this interview, they say they're going all out
"simulation".
> > > These are the same people who make the awesome F1 2002. The EA guy
even
> > > mentions they will be more "sim" than Papyrus and will have more
options
> > and
> > > tweaks than anybody, bar none.

> > > http://www.racesimcentral.net/,10869,2875327,00.html

> > > ---
> > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
> > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.racesimcentral.net/).
> > > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002

Schoone

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Schoone » Thu, 25 Jul 2002 23:54:54

http://gamespot.com/gamespot/filters/products/screens/0,11105,561995,...
?page=10

See the Draft indicator.


> Where did you see a reference to draft-meter?

> --
> Joe Marques



> > To me.....the draft-o-meter does not represent a sim.

Joe Saxo

Wow, ISS does Nascar Thunder 2003!

by Joe Saxo » Fri, 26 Jul 2002 00:10:00

Since when is Tiburon Studios "ISS"? ISI is providing the engine and Tib is
doing the game, read all the facts first.



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