Personally, I got sick of seeing crazy moves off the starting line and then
watching everybody run back to the spare cars. Clean starts are part of the
skill of racing.
Red flags only come out if it's physically impossible to clear the track -
for (at least to me) *obvious* reasons.
Yup Silverstone... Schumi got a late penalty...and waited til the last
lap to come in and serve the penalty. Well, his pit box was past the
start/finish line so when he came into the pits to serve the penalty...he
crossed the start/finish line for the win or whatever place he got.
Ergo..no a no penalty penalty.
dave henrie
The reason there was no red flag today was simple. Nobody had Schumi's
prescense of mind to STOP in the middle of the racetrack. Since all the
cars had spun clear of the racing surface...no redflag was needed. If any
of the partially wounded cars had stopped...then the red flag would have
flown. (refer to Hockenheim two or three years ago)
dave henrie
I dont recall any time being added either.
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> this is a written rule
> you can't blame him for that fortunately
> 3dO
and then it was probably yet another fia f*ckup/favorisme (take your pick)
saying something like "he entered the pits to sit out his stop and go while
finishing, which is legel, so no time will be added"
just another "fair" treatement by the fia
according to me that is a fia problem
although MS's comments are also highly doubtfull
3dO
>Red flags only come out if it's physically impossible to clear the track -
>for (at least to me) *obvious* reasons.
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Okay, lets add some facts...
Michael was given a 10 second stop go penalty. Unfortunately the stewards at
the BGP screwed up, and not only did they not tell the team for many laps,
they also handed them a handwritten note explaining the rule broken. At the
time, there were two distinct cases for how to serve a penalty, case 'c' was
to come into the pits like normal, case 'e' was to add 25 seconds to the
total race time. Ferrari didn't know which - the note was handwritten quite
badly, assumed that it was case 'e' because of the time between the offence
and the penalty notification, but brought him in on the last lap (still
within 3 laps of the notification) to cover all bases, just like McLaren or
Williams would have done. As it was in fact case 'c', but the delay was due
to the race stewards, and no fault of Ferraris, the FIA allowed it to stand,
thus Michael won the race in the pitlane.
The race director's job is to keep the race going if at all possible. In
this case, there were no cars on the track, not a great deal of debris on
the track (wheels, for example), and none of the drivers required medical
attention (so no medical car was required on the track), so the race
continued. In Australia 2002, big first corner accident, but no red flag for
the same reason. When Michael was hit from behind by Luciano Burti a few
years back, Michaels' car stopped in the middle of T1, with wheels missing,
therefore the red flag was thrown.
No ***, just common sense.
> >Anyway I kind of lost interest after Ralf,
> >Rubens, and Kimi decided to try and make a carbon fiber sandwich.
> Has anyone heard if Kimi is ok? He looked *thoroughly* shaken up after
that.
> Wicked looking impact... :-(
> Michael was given a 10 second stop go penalty. Unfortunately the stewards at
> the BGP screwed up, and not only did they not tell the team for many laps,
> they also handed them a handwritten note explaining the rule broken. At the
> time, there were two distinct cases for how to serve a penalty, case 'c' was
> to come into the pits like normal, case 'e' was to add 25 seconds to the
> total race time. Ferrari didn't know which - the note was handwritten quite
> badly, assumed that it was case 'e' because of the time between the offence
> and the penalty notification, but brought him in on the last lap (still
> within 3 laps of the notification) to cover all bases, just like McLaren or
> Williams would have done. As it was in fact case 'c', but the delay was due
> to the race stewards, and no fault of Ferraris,
>the FIA allowed it to stand,
Thats my problem, they did not add the time penalty, they either have to make him pit or add the penalty, they did neither.
Which he never should have as he was 22 seconds ahead of Hakkinen. Either way he should not have won the race.
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