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GP3 weather question?

Deek

GP3 weather question?

by Deek » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I know that the weather changes when you are in the race but what I would
like to know is if the weather can change while in qualifying or in
practice.

thanks in advance

Txl

GP3 weather question?

by Txl » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

it changes anytime.



SKur

GP3 weather question?

by SKur » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

YES

> I know that the weather changes when you are in the race but what I would
> like to know is if the weather can change while in qualifying or in
> practice.

> thanks in advance

Deek

GP3 weather question?

by Deek » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

thanks for the quick reply


> YES


> > I know that the weather changes when you are in the race but what I
would
> > like to know is if the weather can change while in qualifying or in
> > practice.

> > thanks in advance

Crystal Robbins

GP3 weather question?

by Crystal Robbins » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Thats the quickest reply in ras History! ;-)

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Harjan Bran

GP3 weather question?

by Harjan Bran » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

It's preprogrammed however, if you load a game the next session will be the
same weather as before.


Kai Fulle

GP3 weather question?

by Kai Fulle » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00

so it really isn't "dynamic" at all then? How many different weather loops
do they have for each track? Seems that you could realize which weather
pattern your in and plan accordingly, which could severely hamper this
feature.


> It's preprogrammed however, if you load a game the next session will be
the
> same weather as before.



> > I know that the weather changes when you are in the race but what I
would
> > like to know is if the weather can change while in qualifying or in
> > practice.

> > thanks in advance

Peter Ive

GP3 weather question?

by Peter Ive » Thu, 27 Jul 2000 04:00:00



I'm not so sure that they have 'weather loops' as such.  When I took the
code apart in the original Microprose Grand Prix I found that the random
number generator that was used appeared to start from a seed and then
used the new random number to generate the next random number etc.  Now,
when a game is saved at a particular point, if the current random number
is also saved and is then used as the seed when the saved game is
reloaded, then chances are the things are going to pan out pretty
similarly everytime you reload the saved game as they will always
restart from the same seed.  I'm not saying this is definitely how it's
done, but a possibility all the same, perhaps.



>> It's preprogrammed however, if you load a game the next session will be
>the
>> same weather as before.



>> > I know that the weather changes when you are in the race but what I
>would
>> > like to know is if the weather can change while in qualifying or in
>> > practice.

>> > thanks in advance

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Jo Hels

GP3 weather question?

by Jo Hels » Fri, 28 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 26 Jul 2000 21:21:49 +0100, Peter Ives




>>so it really isn't "dynamic" at all then? How many different weather loops
>>do they have for each track? Seems that you could realize which weather
>>pattern your in and plan accordingly, which could severely hamper this
>>feature.

>I'm not so sure that they have 'weather loops' as such.  When I took the
>code apart in the original Microprose Grand Prix I found that the random
>number generator that was used appeared to start from a seed and then
>used the new random number to generate the next random number etc.  Now,
>when a game is saved at a particular point, if the current random number
>is also saved and is then used as the seed when the saved game is
>reloaded, then chances are the things are going to pan out pretty
>similarly everytime you reload the saved game as they will always
>restart from the same seed.  I'm not saying this is definitely how it's
>done, but a possibility all the same, perhaps.

Yes, I think Kai misunderstood. "Random" car failures and apparently
now also the weather is decided at the start of a race or maybe
weekend. So they are only exactly the same if you start from the same
saved game. Not if you start races from scratch.

You can argue against this approach, but it seems logical to me. When
you reload a saved game, you just rewind time in the same "virtual
universe". You'll have to start a different game if you want it
randomized again...

JoH

Ared Mosine

GP3 weather question?

by Ared Mosine » Sun, 30 Jul 2000 04:00:00



no, it just means that the wheather pattern for the entire weekend is set at
the start of a weekend. But it could still be completely random. Let me get
back to you AFTER I have driven 200 full-length races at any given track =)


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