rec.autos.simulators

by **drbo..** » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00

My Win 98 experience:

1. It installed nicely on a new machine. The startup floppy will be
useful, as it has wonderful generic drivers to run CD-ROMs, etc.

2. Some operations seem a little more intuitive. My T1 installed
easily. Ditto my CD-ROM changer and LS-120 floppy.

3. It won't run the GPL demo or ICR2 (sigh).

4. When I tried the instructions to patch GPL I screwed up my system.

5. Win98 had great tools to help me fix 4.

I'm sold. Bring on the final version of GPL! I can live
without ICR2.

bob

by **Savold** » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Don't numbers 3 and 4 bother you just a little? If those two games won't
work, number 1 seems a little suspect as far as nicely goes. I would be
more than a little upset.

> My Win 98 experience:

> 1. It installed nicely on a new machine. The startup floppy will be
> useful, as it has wonderful generic drivers to run CD-ROMs, etc.

> 2. Some operations seem a little more intuitive. My T1 installed
> easily. Ditto my CD-ROM changer and LS-120 floppy.

> 3. It won't run the GPL demo or ICR2 (sigh).

> 4. When I tried the instructions to patch GPL I screwed up my system.

> 5. Win98 had great tools to help me fix 4.

> I'm sold. Bring on the final version of GPL! I can live
> without ICR2.

> bob

by **RaiderZone00** » Wed, 22 Jul 1998 04:00:00

> Don't numbers 3 and 4 bother you just a little? If those two games won't
> work, number 1 seems a little suspect as far as nicely goes. I would be
> more than a little upset.

> > My Win 98 experience:

> > 1. It installed nicely on a new machine. The startup floppy will be
> > useful, as it has wonderful generic drivers to run CD-ROMs, etc.

> > 2. Some operations seem a little more intuitive. My T1 installed
> > easily. Ditto my CD-ROM changer and LS-120 floppy.

> > 3. It won't run the GPL demo or ICR2 (sigh).

> > 4. When I tried the instructions to patch GPL I screwed up my system.

> > 5. Win98 had great tools to help me fix 4.

> > I'm sold. Bring on the final version of GPL! I can live
> > without ICR2.

> > bob

Win98 has been a minor nightmare for me. However I have finally achieved the
same stability that I had with Win95.Had alot of driver problems. Luckily
updated drivers were released within days.I have been running my DOS
rendition versions of ICR2 , N2 as well as Gp2 without a hitch.Yes GPL is
dead but the final version will support Win98.

Best of luck

by **Philip For** » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Hi I also had the problem with win98 and gpl not runing, but a mate of mine
Sid Chapple helped me with a fix i think he got the info from papyrus page
now it runs great so don't despair gpl will run :-))

>My Win 98 experience:
>3. It won't run the GPL demo or ICR2 (sigh).

>4. When I tried the instructions to patch GPL I screwed up my system.

>5. Win98 had great tools to help me fix 4.

> I'm sold. Bring on the final version of GPL! I can live
>without ICR2.

> bob

by **ks denn** » Thu, 23 Jul 1998 04:00:00

: So it ain't that, I quess 98 just
: doesn't want to run fast on my system, which is fine with me, I see it
: simply as a trade off for better stability.

Microsoft must simply love idiots like you.

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by **Alber** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

I know that Microsoft have done some stupid things in the past, but it is
my honest opinion that 98 is an improvement on 95. Please do not
contribute to the public misconception of Bill Gates and Microsoft by
untrue claims and personal insults to the above mentioned. Microsoft has
the software monopoly (a bad thing) but 98 truly is not the disaster that
these clowns claim it to be. I for one now for the first time since DOS
6.22 really enjoy my PC again, because of 98's huge improvement on 95.
Please air you views and be objective
Bye Albert

by **Piers B** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Geez, whilst you're at it try looking at a real 32bit OS like
NT/Linux/OS2/BeOS and the like. 32bit OS, Win95/98 it ain't. Then you'll
understand the real joys of computing. Try running 5 Netscape windows,
Photoshop, Word, News browser and the likes at the same time on Win95/98.
Your computer will have a hernea. Now try the same on NT or equivelent
programs on the other OS's, not the same is it?

Piers B.

PS I run Quake 2, and ADF with no problems on my system and looking forward
to Scream'n Demons and Falcon 4 as well as TAW. With Voodoo 2 F15 also runs
on NT.

> > I for one now for the first time since DOS
> >6.22 really enjoy my PC again, because of 98's huge improvement on 95.
> >Please air you views and be objective
> >Bye Albert

> Why is that? Could you give some examples of what the huge
> improvements in Win98 are over Win95 are and why they enable you to
> enjoy your PC for the first time since DOS 6.22?
> Please be objective.

> Thanks in advance.

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by **papa..** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

For me I think I want Win95 back specifically because I was able to
control the drivers a bit easier than Win98....Win98 is built for the
beginner and so does some really strange things with driver
installation....all in all I really miss Win95 (stability wasnt a
problem....) and wish I could go back. But alas I converted the drives
to FAT32....the only really cool thing about Win98.

My poor wife....I installed Win98 on her computer and she HATES
it....crashes all the time when she is writing programs for school. I
may end up buying and installing Win NT for her as I think thats the
only thing that will end up stable enough for her. Win98 is not it.

Actually its too bad that BeOS is so expensive as that might fit the
bill for her better...umm.

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by **Kai Hovde** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

Not agree.

It is easier to change drivers in Win98.
In Win95 it is very difficult to change drivers, you have to "update
existing" driver, you can not (easy) change to -say older driver.
In Win98 you can (easy). And the Win98 ("Norway version") don't ask twice
about the drivers location.

Firebird,

-Norway

>For me I think I want Win95 back specifically because I was able to
>control the drivers a bit easier than Win98....Win98 is built for the
>beginner and so does some really strange things with driver
>installation....all in all I really miss Win95 (stability wasnt a
>problem....) and wish I could go back. But alas I converted the drives
>to FAT32....the only really cool thing about Win98.

>My poor wife....I installed Win98 on her computer and she HATES
>it....crashes all the time when she is writing programs for school. I
>may end up buying and installing Win NT for her as I think thats the
>only thing that will end up stable enough for her. Win98 is not it.

>Actually its too bad that BeOS is so expensive as that might fit the
>bill for her better...umm.

>PAPA DOC

>>Why is that? Could you give some examples of what the huge
>>improvements in Win98 are over Win95 are and why they enable you to
>>enjoy your PC for the first time since DOS 6.22?
>>Please be objective.

>>Thanks in advance.

>>--
>>* rrevved at mindspring dot com
>>* s.p.u.t.u.m. (unit.26) - http://www.sputum.com

>Pierre PAPA DOC Legrand
>Pink Flamingo Pilot...

>http://home.earthlink.net/~plegrand/PINKFLAMINGO.htm

by **Nos v2.** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

I know for a fact that if I went to Win98 now then I would have major
headaches with the drivers for the Viper330. I'll switch when there
are stable drivers for the Viper available.
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by **Janne Hosa** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

>Geez, whilst you're at it try looking at a real 32bit OS like
>NT/Linux/OS2/BeOS and the like. 32bit OS, Win95/98 it ain't. Then you'll
>understand the real joys of computing. Try running 5 Netscape windows,
>Photoshop, Word, News browser and the likes at the same time on Win95/98.
>Your computer will have a hernea. Now try the same on NT or equivelent
>programs on the other OS's, not the same is it?

I use Win95 on a P233MMX/64MB. Right now I'm using three different
instances of Forte Agent newsreader (downloading newsgroups from three
different news servers), Exceed FTP (a FTP client with graphical user
interface) downloading SIN demo for me, and five MSIE 3.02 windows in
different URLs, occasionally glansing them through and loading new
pages. Works fine here as I'm writing this message. Oh and there's
some other stuff too there, like GetRight FTP utility downloading some
games from daves classics.

At work I use a P200MMX/64MB with NT4.0, and compared to it this runs
fine when I do about the same on it. You probably expect everything to
be like in molasses now here, but that isn't the case (compared to
that NT box).

HOWEVER, the real difference IMHO is that my Win95 machine can crash
much more easily, especially when banging the limits like now. It
doesn't happen that often, but sometimes anyway, while so far I have
managed to crash my NT machine only once to a state where I had to
press the reset button (even Ctrl-Alt-Del didn't do anything). Oh and
it was Netscape which was able to crash my NT box. :)

by **Janne Hosa** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

>I use Win95 on a P233MMX/64MB. Right now I'm using three different
>instances of Forte Agent newsreader (downloading newsgroups from three
>different news servers), Exceed FTP (a FTP client with graphical user
>interface) downloading SIN demo for me, and five MSIE 3.02 windows in
>different URLs, occasionally glansing them through and loading new
>pages. Works fine here as I'm writing this message. Oh and there's
>some other stuff too there, like GetRight FTP utility downloading some
>games from daves classics.

Oh and how could I forget: of course I was also playing some mp3 with
WinAmp in the background. :) That's a resource hog, right?

by **DarkJe** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

You could buy a third party product like Powerquest's Partition Magic.
This would allow you to change to partition to FAT16 without
destroying the data. You could then uninstall.

Hmm... Did you have Win95 OSR2? You may be ok with FAT32.

Best of luck.

DarkJedi

by **Trip** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

> For me I think I want Win95 back specifically because I was able to
> control the drivers a bit easier than Win98....Win98 is built for the
> beginner and so does some really strange things with driver
> installation....all in all I really miss Win95 (stability wasnt a
> problem....) and wish I could go back. But alas I converted the drives
> to FAT32....the only really cool thing about Win98.

Papa,

Win95 OSR2 works fine with FAT32... I've already uninstalled 98 and
reinstalled 95 with no problems at all. Just be sure you have OSR2 and
you'll be fine.

Trips

by **Shaun Klo** » Tue, 28 Jul 1998 04:00:00

>> >Microsoft must simply love idiots like you.

>> Was this really necessary? Geez, this is why so many people stay away
>> from newsgroups.....little kids like this...

>What I don't understand is why someone would take the time to post something
>so petty, whilst adding absolutely nothing constructive to the thread
>themselves. It's all a bit sad really.

>Also I fail to see how - from what I posted earlier - one could conclude that
>I am so obviously an "idiot". I make my living with my computer (digital
>graphic artist), for me it's a very important tool as well as being a great
>source of entertainment. I state quite proudly that I'm no 'tech-head', all
>that matters to me is that my machine runs in a reasonably stable fashion
>(and plays my favourite sims :-)), Win '98 provides that stability where '95
>didn't, period. If that makes me an idiot for handing over the cash for '98
>(which BTW I can write off as a business expense) then so be it, I'm an idiot
>- and a satisfied one at that.

>stu

I certainly don't think you an idiot. Win98 provides many advantages over
Win95, FAT32 for one which was only provided with the OEM-only released
Win95b. Of course, WinNT is what Win95 was to Win3.1, how did we ever managed
with so many crashes? It makes me sick...

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