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=Gunslinge

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by =Gunslinge » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Ergo... Got the retail version..
Did pretty good at the Glen...
Thought I would try VROC...
I am humbled..
Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
You guys know who you are...
I need more practice...
You know what else I need?
More practice...
and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
But I'll start with the practice...
I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
Any pointers?

Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
like it says to do in the book..
But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
My apologies..
Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
VROC again...
Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
to kick butt...

--
-Gunslinger-

Nathan Won

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Nathan Won » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00


> Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> to kick butt...

Not to worry, you're not alone. I've been driving this thing for months
now and i'm still not any good. Guess I wasn't cut out to be a race car
driver in 1967. :-(

Nathan

Jo

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Jo » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00


>Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
>to kick butt...

I'm really slow. Like you I just try to stay out of the way. But I
don't have time to race very often.

Joe

Tony Kloosterma

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Tony Kloosterma » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Gunslinger, don't worry about it. Everyone has to start some where.  As
long as you're sourteous and move over most of the fast guys will worry
about the passing bit.
If you want to race privately to get practice e-mail me and I'll help you
out.

Tony


> Ergo... Got the retail version..
> Did pretty good at the Glen...
> Thought I would try VROC...
> I am humbled..
> Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
> You guys know who you are...
> I need more practice...
> You know what else I need?
> More practice...
> and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
> But I'll start with the practice...
> I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
> Any pointers?

> Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
> ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
> like it says to do in the book..
> But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
> My apologies..
> Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
> VROC again...
> Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> to kick butt...

> --
> -Gunslinger-


Paul Jone

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Paul Jone » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Hi,
I don't know if you are who I think you are - the guy on VROC last night
then don't be disheartened. We have all been there. Nobody except the real
"naturals" leaps straight into one of these fuel tanks on wheels and does
a 1:28 at Monza or a 1:04 at the Glen at the first attempt, and most of us
will never do those times anyway.
Here are a few very basic tips:
1) Concentrate on Monza only until you can do 1:33 there - it's the
easiest track since it only has 4 corners of consequence and has no blind
corners or elevation changes. Avoid Monaco and Nurburgring for a good long
while - these are very difficult tracks.
2) Read 4 wheel drift - but ignore the practice at the Glen until you feel
happy at Monza. Watkins Glen is a difficult track with some of the hardest
corners in the '67 season.
3) Try to get a good exit speed from the corners rather than a good entry
speed. Slow in, fast out. Brake earlier than the fast guys so that you are
confident of getting round in one piece. After a while you can work on
later and later braking but put that aside for now.
4) Download and study some hotlaps from Schubi's site
http://216.13.117.36/~schubi/index.htm - see what gears the fast guys use.
Copy them.
5) Start on the Coventry (Cooper) and not the Eagle, Lotus or Ferrari
(these cars are fast but hard to drive). Get Alison Hine's Coventry setups
from http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/ - these excellant setups
produce a car that behaves itself and communicates to the driver. The
Eagle, Lotus and Ferrari are fast but frisky and need a firm hand - as a
novice, you will probably get better times in the Cov. Anyway put Ian Lake
or his ilk in a Cov against moderate drivers like myself in Eagles or
Lotuses and they'll win everytime - so it's as much down to pilot as the
car.
6) Practice, practice and practice some more.
7) Few people on VROC mind a slow driver per se. What many people find
trying is people who do not follow the basic online etiquette. Don't
bother with putting your arm up - most of us won't see that and it will
make it harder for you control the car - there are enough things to cope
with without all those signals. At the start take care that all your
motion is in a straight line - if you wiggle you can start multiple pile
ups. Also don't try and gain places off the start grid until you're a bit
better. Also be especially aware of drivers around you and be able to
react when they slew about. Don't try to hard to overtake people until lap
on the short circuits. Tyres are cold and there are generally a lot of
people around. As a novice, just try to hold your position. Pay attention
to the blue flag - if you see it it is for you - move off the line when
conveniant to let someone pass. Also concentrate on your mirrors. The guy
lapping you may be have moved off line to pass and if you then move off
line - bang. Last night, you were apologetic when you caused accidents and
people repond to that. You tried not to cause accidents and people like
that too. What you have to work at is not causing them and this is mainly
down to skill. However remember that this is racing and even the best
drivers are often in the wrong when incidents happen.
8) You seemed to have a good connection - cable modem or ADSL, as I recall
- why not put a "Rookies only" comment in your VROC race setup. There are
lots of other novices and you will have a blast racing them rather than
against people who are much faster than you. Most people will be attracted
to your race if you don't say "novices only" as everyone likes a good
host.
9) When you can do a steady 1:34 at Monza - I would think about racing at
a non-rookies level. The 1:28ers won't be lapping you on a Novice race
provided that you don't crash out.
10) Enjoy it - it's only for fun after all.
Hope this all helps,
Cheers,
Paul

> Ergo... Got the retail version..
> Did pretty good at the Glen...
> Thought I would try VROC...
> I am humbled..
> Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
> You guys know who you are...
> I need more practice...
> You know what else I need?
> More practice...
> and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
> But I'll start with the practice...
> I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
> Any pointers?

> Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
> ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
> like it says to do in the book..
> But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
> My apologies..
> Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
> VROC again...
> Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> to kick butt...

> --
> -Gunslinger-


Tadej Krev

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Tadej Krev » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

In general, the guys racing on VROC are pretty good (70% of them can run
sub 1:10 anyway).
I would advise you to nail the track before going on-line. You should know
the baking points
and the limits of the track before going online. Not many fast guys like
backmarkers not
being able to make a room for a 1 lap pass (I had few occasions when a
backmarker just
couldn't keep the car straight in Monza. Now add some warping and I was
stuck on his tail
for 2 laps until he spun into the fence and I could safely go past - and
that was Monza).

Make some 200 laps <g> around Glen and then try online again. You'll also
have more statisfaction
if you'll be fighting for positions rather then fighting your car and keep
looking into your mirrors for
faster guys coming on you... :o)

Tadej


> Ergo... Got the retail version..
> Did pretty good at the Glen...
> Thought I would try VROC...
> I am humbled..
> Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
> You guys know who you are...
> I need more practice...
> You know what else I need?
> More practice...
> and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
> But I'll start with the practice...
> I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
> Any pointers?

> Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
> ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
> like it says to do in the book..
> But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
> My apologies..
> Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
> VROC again...
> Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> to kick butt...

> --
> -Gunslinger-


Paul Jone

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Paul Jone » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

One thing you might think about is a novice racing club. Online racing is so
much more fun that hotlapping or racing the AI. You have a good connection so
you could host it. If you advertised it here you would get loads of takers and
all those people who are too scared to go online against the faster racers
would happily join you. Pretty soon you'd find it isn't a novice club at all
as you all start to get fast.
Cheers,
Paul

> Hi,
> I don't know if you are who I think you are - the guy on VROC last night
> then don't be disheartened. We have all been there. Nobody except the real
> "naturals" leaps straight into one of these fuel tanks on wheels and does
> a 1:28 at Monza or a 1:04 at the Glen at the first attempt, and most of us
> will never do those times anyway.
> Here are a few very basic tips:
> 1) Concentrate on Monza only until you can do 1:33 there - it's the
> easiest track since it only has 4 corners of consequence and has no blind
> corners or elevation changes. Avoid Monaco and Nurburgring for a good long
> while - these are very difficult tracks.
> 2) Read 4 wheel drift - but ignore the practice at the Glen until you feel
> happy at Monza. Watkins Glen is a difficult track with some of the hardest
> corners in the '67 season.
> 3) Try to get a good exit speed from the corners rather than a good entry
> speed. Slow in, fast out. Brake earlier than the fast guys so that you are
> confident of getting round in one piece. After a while you can work on
> later and later braking but put that aside for now.
> 4) Download and study some hotlaps from Schubi's site
> http://216.13.117.36/~schubi/index.htm - see what gears the fast guys use.
> Copy them.
> 5) Start on the Coventry (Cooper) and not the Eagle, Lotus or Ferrari
> (these cars are fast but hard to drive). Get Alison Hine's Coventry setups
> from http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/ - these excellant setups
> produce a car that behaves itself and communicates to the driver. The
> Eagle, Lotus and Ferrari are fast but frisky and need a firm hand - as a
> novice, you will probably get better times in the Cov. Anyway put Ian Lake
> or his ilk in a Cov against moderate drivers like myself in Eagles or
> Lotuses and they'll win everytime - so it's as much down to pilot as the
> car.
> 6) Practice, practice and practice some more.
> 7) Few people on VROC mind a slow driver per se. What many people find
> trying is people who do not follow the basic online etiquette. Don't
> bother with putting your arm up - most of us won't see that and it will
> make it harder for you control the car - there are enough things to cope
> with without all those signals. At the start take care that all your
> motion is in a straight line - if you wiggle you can start multiple pile
> ups. Also don't try and gain places off the start grid until you're a bit
> better. Also be especially aware of drivers around you and be able to
> react when they slew about. Don't try to hard to overtake people until lap
> on the short circuits. Tyres are cold and there are generally a lot of
> people around. As a novice, just try to hold your position. Pay attention
> to the blue flag - if you see it it is for you - move off the line when
> conveniant to let someone pass. Also concentrate on your mirrors. The guy
> lapping you may be have moved off line to pass and if you then move off
> line - bang. Last night, you were apologetic when you caused accidents and
> people repond to that. You tried not to cause accidents and people like
> that too. What you have to work at is not causing them and this is mainly
> down to skill. However remember that this is racing and even the best
> drivers are often in the wrong when incidents happen.
> 8) You seemed to have a good connection - cable modem or ADSL, as I recall
> - why not put a "Rookies only" comment in your VROC race setup. There are
> lots of other novices and you will have a blast racing them rather than
> against people who are much faster than you. Most people will be attracted
> to your race if you don't say "novices only" as everyone likes a good
> host.
> 9) When you can do a steady 1:34 at Monza - I would think about racing at
> a non-rookies level. The 1:28ers won't be lapping you on a Novice race
> provided that you don't crash out.
> 10) Enjoy it - it's only for fun after all.
> Hope this all helps,
> Cheers,
> Paul


> > Ergo... Got the retail version..
> > Did pretty good at the Glen...
> > Thought I would try VROC...
> > I am humbled..
> > Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
> > You guys know who you are...
> > I need more practice...
> > You know what else I need?
> > More practice...
> > and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
> > But I'll start with the practice...
> > I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
> > Any pointers?

> > Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
> > ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
> > like it says to do in the book..
> > But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
> > My apologies..
> > Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
> > VROC again...
> > Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> > to kick butt...

> > --
> > -Gunslinger-


=Gunslinge

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by =Gunslinge » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

On Thu, 01 Apr 1999 14:18:03 +0100, Paul Jones


>Hi,
>I don't know if you are who I think you are - the guy on VROC last night
>then don't be disheartened. We have all been there. Nobody except the real
>"naturals" leaps straight into one of these fuel tanks on wheels and does
>a 1:28 at Monza or a 1:04 at the Glen at the first attempt, and most of us
>will never do those times anyway.

<SNIP>

Yeah that was me last night.
Thanks for all the help.
I'll take your advice as well as others.

Thanks again.
I did find one problem to my slow speeds, I had a CH Fighterstick, Pro
Throttle, and Pedals hooked up. For some reason i wasn't getting full
gas and brake. I disconnect my throttle and Fighterstick, and plugged
a TM Top Gun into the Pedals.. Now I get great engine roar.

--
-Gunslinger-

5th Docto

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by 5th Docto » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

well, here's my $.02 worth.
like someone else noted, NO-ONE did a 1:28 their first lap at Monza.
Everyone needs to practice allot before we may do those times.
My suggestions...
Use the Coventry with Ali Hine setups.  This combo is easier to learn with.
Use the training mode in GPL, and put enough fuel in for 11 laps at Monza,
then go out and do slow
laps.  Like 1:40's.  Just to get the feel of the car, try different braking
points, throttle points, jerk the steering wheel back and forth, just to get
the feel of how and when the car will respond.  During this process, you
should learn how the car reacts when the tires are cold, warm and hot.
These should feel very different, and you wont be "surprised" when you need
to alter your path during a race.  Also, as your lap times approach 1:32 or
so, try changing your lines while lapping.  like going into Curva Granda
high and coming out low.   If you can do this, your good enough challenge
anybody on VROC.
Your right.  It takes lots of practice if you want to do well.  But sooner
than you think, others will be pulling over for you.

the 5th Doctor

Ergo... Got the retail version..
Did pretty good at the Glen...
Thought I would try VROC...
I am humbled..
Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
You guys know who you are...
I need more practice...
You know what else I need?
More practice...
and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
But I'll start with the practice...
I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
Any pointers?

-Gunslinger-

schwab

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by schwab » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Well Gunny... think about it. The Glen was THE demo track for a long
time... so all real "GPL-heads" had the demo and lapped the HELL out of
the Glen before the full version came out. They had seat time and
setups.

You can't expect to walk in from the outside, never having *sat* in a 67
F1 car before and see a relatively new track... and be instantly
competitive. People have a lot more miles than you...

Try practicing a bit.. If you can find a setup and comfort zone to get
you into the 1:07-1:09 range consistently, you will be just fine. The
fast guys will still be faster, but you will have plenty of competition.

Well, as you are finding out, the learning curve is a steep one. I'm
sure you encoutered plenty of flight sims that were the same way. Just
don't give up on it and you WILL be rewarded! :-)

--dave


> Ergo... Got the retail version..
> Did pretty good at the Glen...
> Thought I would try VROC...
> I am humbled..
> Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
> You guys know who you are...
> I need more practice...
> You know what else I need?
> More practice...
> and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
> But I'll start with the practice...
> I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
> Any pointers?

> Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
> ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
> like it says to do in the book..
> But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
> My apologies..
> Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
> VROC again...
> Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> to kick butt...

> --
> -Gunslinger-


--
Dave Schwabe
The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site
http://users.wi.net/~schwabe
Peter Gag

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Peter Gag » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

There is no secret, no cheat, no quick fix and no shortcut to getting
good/fast at GPL. (I should know I've had this this thing since the
day after the first demo came out, and I'm still struggling to be
consistently fast, but I still love the challenge!)

The pointers you are after are these:

- Practice, practice, and then practice some more. Boring I know, but
it is the *ONLY* way to learn how to drive these cars properly. Forget
everything you ever learned in any other sim/game, With GPL you start
at the bottom and work your way up from scratch. We all have, even the
World record holders with the fastest laps, we all know what it feels
like to continually throw the thing off the road, but practice *DOES*
make perfect (well nearly anyway!)

- Start on the easier tracks, (Monza) and in an easier car (Coventry)
d/l some set-ups and fast replays from the net, look and learn, and
get in as much practice as you possibly can.

- By all means drive on vroc, doesn't matter how slow you may be, just
be considerate to all the other faster (and slower?) drivers who are
on the track with you, and no-one will mind your laptimes.

- Smooth = fast. Try to gradually increase your laptimes slowly,
just concentrae on keeping the car on the road and in a straight
line (except when going around corners of course!) you will *NOT*
break any world records at first! just concentrate on beating your
*own* best times, and the laptimes will come down faster than you
think?

- Have fun.....

8-)

*Peter*   #:-)

Bubb

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Bubb » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

I may not be speaking for anyone else but me when I say this BUT:

I like it when there are fast guys, medium guys AND beginners (slow
guys) all in the same race!

I consider myself a "medium" guy. Last night I was in an 11 lap Monza
and I turned 10 laps of 1:30's. I finished 3rd. Most of the time, when
in a race with the 1:28 guys, I finish in the top 10.

To me what makes it fun in a race where all skills are present, is
that most of the time I'll find someone to "race for position". That's
usually an indication that I have found someone in the race that is
close to my ability. So, even though I love to win (and have a few
times), I can have a LARGE time just racing SOMEBODY.

Also, if, while "racing for position" a slower car is ahead, it makes
it that much more interesting to try and get around him. Nothing is
more fun to me than to negotiate a pass.

Like an earlier post stated, just keep your line when the faster cars
are approaching and they'll get by you. 99 percent of the fast guys I
have raced against will respect you if you do that.

If you run Monza enough, and you are like me (I LOVE FAST TRACKS), you
eventually learn where the preferred racing groove is. Then, when
faster cars are coming, try to stay out of the racing groove as much
as possible.

Have fun!
-Gary



>Ergo... Got the retail version..
>Did pretty good at the Glen...
>Thought I would try VROC...
>I am humbled..
>Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
>You guys know who you are...
>I need more practice...
>You know what else I need?
>More practice...
>and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
>But I'll start with the practice...
>I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
>Any pointers?

>Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
>ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
>like it says to do in the book..
>But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
>My apologies..=20
>Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
>VROC again...
>Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
>to kick butt...

>--
>-Gunslinger-


schwab

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by schwab » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

Yep, I agree Gary... on basically all points. The only one to expand on
is for slower folks to stay on the line, like you say, but don't try to
outbrake a much faster car going into a turn... it only spells trouble
for both of you.

But yes, a mix is nice, because you have good racing (generally) all
over the circuit.

-_Dave


> I may not be speaking for anyone else but me when I say this BUT:

> I like it when there are fast guys, medium guys AND beginners (slow
> guys) all in the same race!

> I consider myself a "medium" guy. Last night I was in an 11 lap Monza
> and I turned 10 laps of 1:30's. I finished 3rd. Most of the time, when
> in a race with the 1:28 guys, I finish in the top 10.

> To me what makes it fun in a race where all skills are present, is
> that most of the time I'll find someone to "race for position". That's
> usually an indication that I have found someone in the race that is
> close to my ability. So, even though I love to win (and have a few
> times), I can have a LARGE time just racing SOMEBODY.

> Also, if, while "racing for position" a slower car is ahead, it makes
> it that much more interesting to try and get around him. Nothing is
> more fun to me than to negotiate a pass.

> Like an earlier post stated, just keep your line when the faster cars
> are approaching and they'll get by you. 99 percent of the fast guys I
> have raced against will respect you if you do that.

> If you run Monza enough, and you are like me (I LOVE FAST TRACKS), you
> eventually learn where the preferred racing groove is. Then, when
> faster cars are coming, try to stay out of the racing groove as much
> as possible.

> Have fun!
> -Gary



> >Ergo... Got the retail version..
> >Did pretty good at the Glen...
> >Thought I would try VROC...
> >I am humbled..
> >Make me feel like Sylvester the Cat trying to catch Speedy Gun Zolas..
> >You guys know who you are...
> >I need more practice...
> >You know what else I need?
> >More practice...
> >and 2 blonde beach bunnies...
> >But I'll start with the practice...
> >I don't need any practice for the "bunnies"
> >Any pointers?

> >Sorry to all those drivers that had to swerve around my slow pokey
> >ass... I honestly tried to get out of the way... I even raised my arm
> >like it says to do in the book..
> >But .... I made many a man swerve into the yonder fence...
> >My apologies..=20
> >Think I'll wait until I'm a little better before I shame myself on
> >VROC again...
> >Just curios.. is there any novice guys there? Everyone but me seemed
> >to kick butt...

> >--
> >-Gunslinger-


--
Dave Schwabe
The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site
http://users.wi.net/~schwabe
Jo

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by Jo » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00


>5) Start on the Coventry (Cooper) and not the Eagle, Lotus or Ferrari
>(these cars are fast but hard to drive). Get Alison Hine's Coventry setups
>from http://www.nh.ultranet.com/~alison/gpl/ - these excellant setups
>produce a car that behaves itself and communicates to the driver.

Thanks Paul!

Jeez, why didn't someone tell me this months ago? Just tried the
Coventry (with Alison's setups) and beat my best Glen time by over a
second within five laps.

Forget the "you just have to practice" or "learn how to make setups"
lines. When GPL newbies like me come in here crying for help/relief,
just point them to the Coventry with Alison's setups. FINALLY and for
the first time I have a stable GPL car to drive. What a difference!

Joe

David Ewin

Grand Prix Legends... I ESS. YOU. SEE. KAY.

by David Ewin » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00


> Jeez, why didn't someone tell me this months ago? Just tried the
> Coventry (with Alison's setups) and beat my best Glen time by over a
> second within five laps.

> Forget the "you just have to practice" or "learn how to make setups"
> lines. When GPL newbies like me come in here crying for help/relief,
> just point them to the Coventry with Alison's setups. FINALLY and for
> the first time I have a stable GPL car to drive. What a difference!

And if you want to go even faster and still have a very drivable car,
use Alison's Coventry setups on the Lotus.  To do this, copy the setup
in Explorer (right click copy in place).  You'll get a file named
something like "Copy of Ali Cov Monza.co1".  The "co" part of the
extension stands for "Coventry".  Rename the file anything you like, but
make sure the extension is changed to "lo1" (that last character is a
one).  You now have a new Lotus setup.  You'll need to tweak the gear
ratios since the engines are very different.  The easiest way to do that
is just to write down the gear ratios of the default Lotus setup for the
track, and change your new setup to those values.

Voila!  You have a well handling car that is pretty damn fast!

Dave Ewing


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