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n2 3dfx screenshots here

Nasf

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Nasf » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

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It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

Coco

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Coco » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Seems to use anti-aliasing, look great!!!


> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg

> It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
> Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

ge

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by ge » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

So share it with us, why should we have to wait?

geo


>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg
>It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
>Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

ymenar

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by ymenar » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Not that I don't trust you but take those pictures with a grain of salt.
They could be only some normal Nascar2 pcx files with some anti-aliasing
made on them (it's very easy).

Everything that is on r.a.s.  have to be look from the outside.   Btw just
tell me how did you made those screenshots and how did you have the patch.
I don't know you as a Papyrus tester.

Nasfan wrote

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Ken

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Ken » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Not calling anyone a liar here.....but if these are indeed 3dfx pics, I
am not very impressed. The Rendition version looks 3 times that good!
Are you claiming to be a beta tester...if so, did you get papy's
permission to post these? If they are real, I don't think Papy would be
happy with someone posting pics of such low 3dfx quality. Or perhaps
these are from an early alpha stage? Enlighten us some, please!
                                            Ken
The Game Pad
http://gamepad.org/


> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg

> It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
> Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

Joseph Cartell

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Joseph Cartell » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

I dont think the rendition is 3times as good. It looks pretty good to me.If
its real.


>Not calling anyone a liar here.....but if these are indeed 3dfx pics, I
>am not very impressed. The Rendition version looks 3 times that good!
>Are you claiming to be a beta tester...if so, did you get papy's
>permission to post these? If they are real, I don't think Papy would be
>happy with someone posting pics of such low 3dfx quality. Or perhaps
>these are from an early alpha stage? Enlighten us some, please!
>                                            Ken
>The Game Pad
>http://gamepad.org/


>> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
>> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
>> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
>> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg

>> It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
>> Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

ymenar

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by ymenar » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

I had an official answer that those pictures are fake.

This guy wants attention and he fooled us. Kinda like the N3 guy this week
:-)

Those are normal Nascar2 pcx files with some anti-aliasing made on them.

Ken

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Ken » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Have you seen the Rendition ver of Nascar on the new Thriller 3d? The quality
of the graphics are VERY good. Much better than the "so-called" 3dfx shots
posted here! And I am not biased against 3dfx. I have the CL Blaster Voodoo 2,
Canopus Pure 3d, STB Velocity 128 Riva, and Thriller 3d- spread across my 2
systems. 3dfx graphics typically look much better than what Nasfan posted, and
the Rendition graphics look MUCH better on my Thriller 3d than the "3dfx" shots
Nasfan posted! Besides, they probably aren't real anyway...hence the poor
quality.
                                                       Ken
The Game Pad
http://gamepad.org/


> I dont think the rendition is 3times as good. It looks pretty good to me.If
> its real.

> >Not calling anyone a liar here.....but if these are indeed 3dfx pics, I
> >am not very impressed. The Rendition version looks 3 times that good!
> >Are you claiming to be a beta tester...if so, did you get papy's
> >permission to post these? If they are real, I don't think Papy would be
> >happy with someone posting pics of such low 3dfx quality. Or perhaps
> >these are from an early alpha stage? Enlighten us some, please!
> >                                            Ken
> >The Game Pad
> >http://gamepad.org/


> >> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
> >> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
> >> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
> >> http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg

> >> It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
> >> Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

Jeff Colli

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Jeff Colli » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00


> Not calling anyone a liar here.....but if these are indeed 3dfx pics, I
> am not very impressed. The Rendition version looks 3 times that good!
> Are you claiming to be a beta tester...if so, did you get papy's
> permission to post these? If they are real, I don't think Papy would be
> happy with someone posting pics of such low 3dfx quality. Or perhaps
> these are from an early alpha stage? Enlighten us some, please!
>                                             Ken

 Bear in mind that N2 was designed with Rendition in mind and so that
version will probably still be at least slightly better than the 3dfx.It
seems that 3dfx patches done "after the fact" are not as good as if it
was designed for it to start with.A perfect example is the 3dfx version
of Shadow Warrior.I have a Pure 3d so I hope that the patch is good.I am
willing to bet that the Pure 3d won't run it without some command line
modification due to the extra texture ram.Hope I'm wrong on that!
                                Jeff
Marc J. Nelso

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Marc J. Nelso » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00


> I had an official answer that those pictures are fake.

Who ever told you this lied - even if it came from Papy or TEN.  I have
it on good authority that someone hacked into the NROS server, and has
been distributing the 3Dfx beta.  Because of this, I wouldn't be a bit
suprised if Papyrus STOPPED making ALL announcements on future sim-
enhancements/patches (future titles exempted)...I don't blame them
either...they get burned when they do bad, and they get burned when
they do good - why bother?

Attention perhaps, but he doesn't seem to be fooling around.  Not sure
how he was able to create the screen shots though, as the "normal" '\'
key produces the same effect as the Rendition version.  However, this
doesn't mean he didn't use a 3rd-party program.

They sure look "genuine" to me...If not, then this guy has one hellva'
talent for knowing which items are smoothed, and which aren't in the
3Dfx version.

FWIW, the only improvement over Rendition (that I can tell) is that
mouse-movement in the menus has improved (just a tad)...3Dfx card
owners will find this patch a bit anti-climatic IMHO.

Cheers!

Marc

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n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Tom Warde » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

I can't even access the site to see the pics.  If someone has dl them,
could you please e-mail them to me.

Thanks,
Tom Wardell

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/2171/index.html


>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg

>It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
>Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

Jo

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Jo » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00


Agreed, I thought they looked pretty good actually. A lot better than
the software version.

I disagree. I just want to be able to play N2 with all textures on at
a reasoable frame-rate. The patch should enable that. Maybe you meant
that 3Dfx users who already HAVE a Rendition would be underwhelmed?

Joe

Rod

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Rod » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Hey Marc will the 3dfx patch include anti-aliasing?

-The Rodster



>> I had an official answer that those pictures are fake.

>Who ever told you this lied - even if it came from Papy or TEN.  I have
>it on good authority that someone hacked into the NROS server, and has
>been distributing the 3Dfx beta.  Because of this, I wouldn't be a bit
>suprised if Papyrus STOPPED making ALL announcements on future sim-
>enhancements/patches (future titles exempted)...I don't blame them
>either...they get burned when they do bad, and they get burned when
>they do good - why bother?

>> This guy wants attention and he fooled us. Kinda like the N3 guy this
week
>> :-)

>Attention perhaps, but he doesn't seem to be fooling around.  Not sure
>how he was able to create the screen shots though, as the "normal" '\'
>key produces the same effect as the Rendition version.  However, this
>doesn't mean he didn't use a 3rd-party program.

>> Those are normal Nascar2 pcx files with some anti-aliasing made on them.

>They sure look "genuine" to me...If not, then this guy has one hellva'
>talent for knowing which items are smoothed, and which aren't in the
>3Dfx version.

>FWIW, the only improvement over Rendition (that I can tell) is that
>mouse-movement in the menus has improved (just a tad)...3Dfx card
>owners will find this patch a bit anti-climatic IMHO.

>Cheers!

>Marc

>> >Nasfan wrote
>> >>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/01.jpg
>> >>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/02.jpg
>> >>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/03.jpg
>> >>http://www.shadows.com/nasfan/04.jpg
>> >>It will be out soon... runs awesome on my p200 with a regular old
>> >>Orchid Righteous 3d and 64 megs SDram.

>--


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ymenar

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by ymenar » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Oh.  It's Julian Data who told me this they were fake.  I just said  what he
told me.  I think that if someone hacked something to get these files it's
bad.  But the guy's name wasn't familiar to me, so I took those pictures
with a grain of salt.

Another thing that made me think they are fake.  I never saw somebody who
made Rendition screenshots in Nascar2.

Heh I don't have a 3dfx card,  since I only play Simracing titles, and I am
not very enthusiastic about the 3dfx patch.  It seems for me also that
people think that the graphics will be 10times better than  before.
I think Brian is a better reliable source than the guy who posted those
pics.

Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> Sponsored by http://www.awpss.com/
Good race at the Brickyard, (-o-)

Official Mentally retarded guy of r.a.s.
Excuse me for my English (I'm French speaking)
Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)

--"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."--

Rod

n2 3dfx screenshots here

by Rod » Sun, 08 Mar 1998 04:00:00

Joe, does that mean that bilinear filtering will remove the "jaggies"? I
still don't own a 3dfx card, but plan to buy one in a couple of months.



>>Hey Marc will the 3dfx patch include anti-aliasing?

>Unlikely, since the 3Dfx card doesn't support hardware anti-aliasing.
>It will have bilinear filtering of course.

>Joe


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