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mark.seer

Spoiler - Spanish GP

by mark.seer » Fri, 09 May 2003 07:01:02

.

I suppose I did. Of course, only an idiot makes unsolicited comebacks with
personal attacks.

Nope. It's called going on the defensive

Considering you set the tone initially. Or was that not supposed

As stated earlier. Just ironic humour

Just correcting an assumption on your part about me being a sad case. You
are full of assumptions aint you?

Magnificent lifestyle? There you go mis-quoting again

I never made any such statement.

None of your business really.

MS

Haqsa

Spoiler - Spanish GP

by Haqsa » Fri, 09 May 2003 07:03:41

Well there is more than one new rule, and we are apparently not talking
about the same one. :)  I agree that they should be allowed more than one
qualifying lap.  But that's only one rule and ideally it does not affect
their lap time, though obviously in some cases it does.  The rules that have
really changed the qualifying order are the various rules that make it
impossible to run in a qualifying trim and then rebuild the car for the
race.  Between qualifying and the race start you can't change parts, can't
change trim, can't change tires, can't even refuel.  Those rules are a good
thing, IMO, because taken together the intent seems to be, as I said, to
make sure that the qualifying order is the same as the order of their
initial race pace.  Now if you can accept that those are good rules then
giving the drivers 12 laps doesn't make a lot of sense, because most of them
aren't going to want to risk that much tire wear just to get a good
qualifying lap.  Unless they are at Monaco.  :)  So I think maybe 2
qualifying laps makes sense, or use the provisional lap times as well as the
final, but that should be enough.


redTe

Spoiler - Spanish GP

by redTe » Fri, 09 May 2003 07:24:22

No, as someone so preoccupied with correct grammar, quotes are usually
wrapped in the "  " tag.

Well don't hand me the ammunition then complain about getting hit in the
crossfire.

alex

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by alex » Fri, 09 May 2003 14:58:24




>> Mark has obviously seen the 60 seconds documentary about the reason
>> for Senna's accident. That documentary speculated that the accident
>> was caused because of driving behind pace-car for so many laps that
>> tires cooled down and as a result Senna's car lowered enough to make a
>> ground contact at tamburello (sparks can been seen just before the
>> accident), air couldn't flow below car and all ground effect was lost
>> which made the car uncontrollable.

> I think the official reason for Senna's crash was that his
> specially-made steering column snapped - that was the basis of the
> trial against P. Head and F.Williams.

I'm not sure if there's such a thing as "official reason" for
crash, but broken steering column is apparently italian officials'
theory. There was some kind of documentary (more like 60 minutes)
that analyzed telemetry, TV footage from outside and from the
Schumy's car who was right behind. Everything seems to agree that
Senna's car bottomed out. At the same time telemetry showed
steering input when Senna was trying to catch the car which
according to their explanation would be impossible with broken
steering column.

Another point is that engineers apparently had a good idea
about what happened. Wooden plank rule was quickly implemented.

Tamburello was also a place where several other very similar crashes
happened (including Piquet and Berger in late eighties AFAIR)

Alex.

mark.seer

Spoiler - Spanish GP

by mark.seer » Fri, 09 May 2003 21:44:13

Only when quoting directly, which I wasn't doing. I just happened to use the
same words in the form of a question. Subtle difference sucker.

Anyway, this is getting pretty boring. If you want to keep pissing into the
wind, it's up to you. I'm not taking this any further.

MS

redTe

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by redTe » Sat, 10 May 2003 00:13:52

And as I never quoted you directly or indirectly I can't even see your
point.
Pissing in the wind is a specialty of mine, so I'll just chalk you up as
another J.Simmons.. Full of shit.


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