rec.autos.simulators

I maybe didn't get to see all of your post, but there's pros and cons to
both methods.

In the old days people used to wait until the last moment to put in their
best qualifying lap. If it suddenly started to rain, then they got caught
out, just like they could be caught out now.

Raikkonen is a bad example to use, though, as it's the same for all drivers,
and he simply made a mistake. Personally I was looking forward to watching
him go through the field (I didn't expect him to take me so literally,
though ;-))

I did find it somewhat annoying, and I'm sure that the drivers found it
frustrating when they were being held up by people who'd qualified in front
of them, but who'd opted for fewer pit stops.

They should ban the pit stops altogether, give them 12 laps to qualify for a
grid position, and make them start the race in the condition that they
finished qualifying. That should solve all problems.

R.

The fact is that under the old rules the public at the track and live TV
audiences worldwide had to look at an empty track for twenty minutes. The
fact is that lesser mortals had a chance to get warmed up to going fast and
making the superiority of their car tell. The fact is I like the new format
because it negates these two factors. I also think the "no-qualifying trim"
aspect is a good thing for the sport in the long run. However, I do think it
should be an equal contest, i.e. qualifying on a set amount of fuel. Cars
could easily be fuelled to fit whatever strategy when they drive through the
pits on reconnaissance laps the next day, so having them qualify on a
minimum fuel load does not preclude a parc ferme after qualifying.

Jan.
=---

Great reasoning. If I build one of my own design model planes, I won't know
if it will crash until I fly it. If the wings fold up then I will put extra
bracing into the thing when I build it's successor. This is called learning
from experience and nothing to do with foresight!!

Don't be ridiculous. There will always be risks and that is accepted.
Personally, I think that the kneejerk reaction to Senna's death was way over
the top in terms of emasculating great circuits such as Imola. Drivers take
calculated risks. It doesn't follow however that they have to be subjected
to avoidable extra risk when lessons have already been learned from similar
previous experience. The road was littered with shards of extremely sharp
carbon composite material ready to take a bite out of a tyre. Makes real
sense to keep cars running on it half way down a 200mph straight into a
heavy braking zone don't it. Maybe you would prefer your racing to be more
gladatorial ala 1950's and 60's. Wat ya say? A death every 3 or 4 race do
you?

Agreed

I've no idea how he lived his life. How in your opinion should life be
lived, just as a matter of interest?

Your version sucks.

My version of what?

MS

Bad news. Only his second race as well if I remember correctly.

MS

Hehe.

How to make friends and influence people eh.

OK oh educated one. What's a "the one who's simple"?

If your lack of apostrophe use is deliberate then you are assuming that I
possess one of these "the one who's simples". I'm not so sure! <G>

Only as a casual observer  these last few years. Ferrari are out of flavour
are they? Out of flavour with whom, and what colour T-shirt should I buy for
this season then? My passion for F1 lies in the years between 1950 to around
1995. Between these dates I have pretty comprehensive knowledge on the
subject.

My simple ironic humour is obviously lost on somebody as sophisticated as
yourself sir!

MS

Your version of racing motor cars. All bases covered. Everyone know exactly
what will happen in every single circumstance.. That's what I mean. Not
gladiatorial, but not without any risk, either. You said it. Calculated
risks. Your version of what happened to Senna is perhaps one of 1000 others.
If, for the sake of argument, you are correct, do you think Senna would have
realized his tyre pressure would be lower due to the speed the car was going
? Of course he was. He took a gamble and it tragically went wrong. He knew
the risks.
As for your interest in how "I" think life should be lived, I don't know why
you care. I would have thought it was abundantly clear to you from my post,
but I guess not.
Being aware of your abilities and, also, your failings.
 Being COMPLETELY responsible for your own actions and accountable for them.
No bullshit. No relying on others to sort out your problems.
Old fashioned values, I guess they are called.

Typo. Sorry to disappoint you.
Why is your ironic humour lost on me ? Your patronising tone wasn't lost on
me, either.
And if you come on Internet NG's to make friends, then YOU'RE even sadder
than I thought.

And for somebody who is SO friggin' knowledgeable on all things F1, you come
across as just another anti-Schumacher/Ferrari ignoramus.

MS

When all you post is  "Simple. A Ferrari was leading.." , it's tough to make
really accurate assessments.

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"goyl at nettx dot no"

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

My tone was not active but reactive to your initial hostile tones. I'm all
for reasonable discussion but if you want to make personal attacks in your
initial overtures you reduce yourself  troll status.

I'm sad eh. Christ you have the intellectual capacity to make character
judgements, based on 3 or 4 NG posts and consisting of a few sentances
each?. Bully for you mate. Go get a job with the cops as a criminal
profiler. They earn mega bucks!!

I have a pretty good social and family life. As far as making friends on the
net goes, well, I've found a lot of long term lasting buddies across the
world, many of whom have visited my home regularly over the years. Historic
racing festivals and *** consumption of industrial proportions are
usually on the agenda :-). A number of these guys frequent this NG actually.

MS

BTW.  My wife and I are on our way over to Italy in a month or two to visit
one of my sad mates and his family. It's gonna be really sad to be sitting
on a veranda sampling the wares from the local vinyards.

Where did I say that? Only an idiot would ever believe that he is close to
getting there. I was talking about factoring in possibilities, based on
previous experience. Of course, following your logic to the ultimate, I
suppose circuits should still be tree lined and spectators be protected by
hay bales.

others.

But still a distinct possibility nonetheless.

If for the sake of argument I am right,  does a replicated instance whereby
a driver is today  put into a situation where they may end up the same way.
We would have learned nothing. Have you considered the pressures on a driver
to keep going? Sponsors, tv, pressure from teams, possibility of losing
one's drive for backing out etc etc? The call should have been made by race
control.

I don't really. You raised the issue without expressing yourself very well,
so I'm Just curious.

As I said, Not very well expressed in your last post.

Some nice selective snipping of the remainder of my last post here <G>

MS

You're the one who made the glib remark concerning Ferrari. You didn't
expect any comeback , hostile or otherwise ?
You didn't seem adverse to joining in with the overall argumentative tone,
did you ? Considering you set the tone initially. Or was that not supposed
to be argumentative ?
Thanks for all the best buddy/family hols info, but I really didn't ask for
it. Or were you just making a very laboured point ?
I suppose I should be green with envy at the magnificent lifestyle you
follow, but, guess what, I don't give a toss.  This isn't lifestyles of the
rich and famous, but you seem to be pre-occupied with stating to everyone
what a great chap you are. Is that how you make all your great pals ?