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by **Jeff Flechsin** » Fri, 19 Mar 1999 04:00:00

I race VROC (GPL) and have had a rash of blown motors in the intermediate
short races at Monza. I have the same problem while driving my Brabham or
Lotus.
In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
in second gear.
How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?

Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
LTO Motorsports

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LTO Motorsports

by **Tim Leighto** » Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hi Jeff
I do the Lesmos in second, accelerating to 120mph at least between them. You
just have to avoid over-revving that engine!! I used to blow a lot, but I
now shift up about 500 rpm below redline, and hardly ever blow up now,
except when over-e***d (e.g. chasing someone!). My lap times are as good
or better than before. Above Novice level the Cosworth is very fragile. I
don't know the Brabham.
Try making your second gear a bit taller.
hope this helps
Tim

>I race VROC (GPL) and have had a rash of blown motors in the intermediate
>short races at Monza. I have the same problem while driving my Brabham or
>Lotus.
> In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
>in second gear.
> How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?

>Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
>LTO Motorsports

>--
>Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
>LTO Motorsports

by **Matthew Knutse** » Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> >I race VROC (GPL) and have had a rash of blown motors in the intermediate
> >short races at Monza. I have the same problem while driving my Brabham or
> >Lotus.
> > In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
> >in second gear.
> > How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?

> >Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
> >LTO Motorsports

Hi Jeff,
In a race, I snick 3rd for an instant, qual stay in 2nd, but then I
nearly
expect the motor to blow after 10 laps or so.
Have raced Monza Pro races for 1 hour np:)

Matt

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by **Michael E. Carve** » Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:00:00

% I race VROC (GPL) and have had a rash of blown motors in the intermediate
% short races at Monza. I have the same problem while driving my Brabham or
% Lotus.
% In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
% in second gear.
% How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?

I lengthened 2nd to the point where I am at about max revs just before
braking for Lesmo 2.

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by **Edwin Solhei** » Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:00:00

>In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
>in second gear.
>How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?

I for one always use 2nd gear between the Lesmos and I must say I can't
recall having engine worries at Monza in ages.
Last Sunday I even had the pleasure of winning the IGPLC Formula 1 race,
whilch lasted for about 1 hour (42 laps) using *Realistic* damage (GP-level)

The fact that I run a 10/30 Differiental might have son\mething to do with
it tho. :-)

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by **Wosc** » Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:00:00

10/30 differential? I thought 30 was the lowest you could go.

Jesse

|
|
|>In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
|>in second gear.
|>How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?
|
|
|I for one always use 2nd gear between the Lesmos and I must say I can't
|recall having engine worries at Monza in ages.
|Last Sunday I even had the pleasure of winning the IGPLC Formula 1 race,
|whilch lasted for about 1 hour (42 laps) using *Realistic* damage
(GP-level)
|
|
|The fact that I run a 10/30 Differiental might have son\mething to do with
|it tho. :-)
|
|--
|All the best,
|Edwin Solheim *remove SPAM-GUARD in address to reply*
|The Paddock - a legendary site....
|<http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock>
|
|

by **Paul Jone** » Sat, 20 Mar 1999 04:00:00

You are lifting off the throttle to shift, aren't you? Yes, of course you are.
I blow regularly at Monza and Spa in the Eagle. I take both Lesmos and
Parabolica in second gear and I do not shift up to 3rd between the two Lesmos.
Cheers,
Paul

> I race VROC (GPL) and have had a rash of blown motors in the intermediate
> short races at Monza. I have the same problem while driving my Brabham or
> Lotus.
> In between the lesmos I rev the engine pretty high as I run those turns
> in second gear.
> How many of you just use third gear for the Lesmos?

> Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
> LTO Motorsports

> --
> Jeff "Flex" Flechsing
> LTO Motorsports

by **Edwin Solhei** » Sun, 21 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Sorry... that should have been a 10/31 differiental.
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<http://home.c2i.net/thepaddock>

>10/30 differential? I thought 30 was the lowest you could go.

by **hime** » Mon, 22 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Unlike apparently everyone else here, I take both Lesmos in 3rd. Mind
you, my best at Monza in the Lotus is only 131.95. I just like to stay
on the track and in control, and I find that using 3rd keeps the arse
from sliding out so easily when you accelerate out of the turns. I also
regularly run intermediate short races without damaging the engine. My
2 cents worth.

Zog

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Don't let the bastards grind you down.
Doug Schneider
Bedford, Nova Scotia
Canada

by **Matthew Knutse** » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> Unlike apparently everyone else here, I take both Lesmos in 3rd. Mind
> you, my best at Monza in the Lotus is only 131.95. I just like to stay
> on the track and in control, and I find that using 3rd keeps the arse
> from sliding out so easily when you accelerate out of the turns. I also
> regularly run intermediate short races without damaging the engine. My
> 2 cents worth.

> Zog

This is a good strategy, but if you want to be really consistently quick
(running low to mid 28s), you'll have to use 2nd, even if you short
shift, to get the revs up faster. It *is* possible ro run 2nd and shift.
From racing in the IGPLC, what the fast guys do is hard, but I believe
Lesmo1 is sacrificed - a late and fast entry to keep the speed up
through the turn. Max speed between the two Lesmos isn't that important,
it's your exit from 2 that counts. Stay in 3rd, and you'll be outdragged
after Lesmo2..
Also, a too slow entry into 1, and you'll be outbraked, which is highly
unlikely into 2, since everybody wants speed down the straights....ahh
racing, don't you love it! :-)

Matt
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Matthew Knutsen

"The Art of Legends" - GPL add-ons
www.cheekracing.electra.no/GPL/simrace1.htm
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by **Greger Hut** » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:07:54 +0100, Matthew Knutsen

>> Unlike apparently everyone else here, I take both Lesmos in 3rd. Mind
>> you, my best at Monza in the Lotus is only 131.95. I just like to stay
>> on the track and in control, and I find that using 3rd keeps the arse
>> from sliding out so easily when you accelerate out of the turns. I also
>> regularly run intermediate short races without damaging the engine. My
>> 2 cents worth.
>This is a good strategy, but if you want to be really consistently quick
>(running low to mid 28s), you'll have to use 2nd, even if you short
>shift, to get the revs up faster. It *is* possible ro run 2nd and shift.
>From racing in the IGPLC, what the fast guys do is hard, but I believe
>Lesmo1 is sacrificed - a late and fast entry to keep the speed up
>through the turn. Max speed between the two Lesmos isn't that important,
>it's your exit from 2 that counts. Stay in 3rd, and you'll be outdragged
>after Lesmo2..

Well I'm using 3rd gear in both Lesmos. My best is 1:27.37 so it isn't
actually very slow.
Maybe I could go faster after tweaking the gear ratios and taking the
Lesmos in second but Monza is such a boring track that I've never
bothered. :)

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Greger Huttu

by **schwab** » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00

hehe... I agree Gregor. I am a little behind at Monza because I just
don't find it all that enjoyable... I'll have to practice there more
prior to the next GPLWS race there! :-)

--Dave

> Maybe I could go faster after tweaking the gear ratios and taking the
> Lesmos in second but Monza is such a boring track that I've never
> bothered. :)

> --
> Greger Huttu

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The Aussie Toad -- Grand Prix Legends & Brabham site
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by **hime** » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Well. If I go back to using 2nd through the Lesmos I'm gonna have to use a
taller second gear, when I hit the short straight between them it's on the
floor and at the redline. I accept that straight line speed at this point
might not be crucial, but when you've got AI swarming around you like a pack
of flies you want to get through there and still keep up the pace, and I can't
seem to keep my foot off the floor on that short straight. And sure enough
after a few laps of that the engine's coughing it's guts up. Exiting Lesmo 2
in 2nd is also an acquired skill, as you have to "apply" throttle at the
perfect rate, you can't just bang it on, otherwise you get that *** little
swerve which kills all the speed you wanted to pick up in the first place. As
for the elusive "late and fast entry" into Lesmo 1, I'm still completely in
the dark as to where and when to brake, either everyone sails by or I'm
locking up all four as I smoke it into the wall. God, it's great.

Zog

> > Unlike apparently everyone else here, I take both Lesmos in 3rd. Mind
> > you, my best at Monza in the Lotus is only 131.95. I just like to stay
> > on the track and in control, and I find that using 3rd keeps the arse
> > from sliding out so easily when you accelerate out of the turns. I also
> > regularly run intermediate short races without damaging the engine. My
> > 2 cents worth.

> > Zog

> This is a good strategy, but if you want to be really consistently quick
> (running low to mid 28s), you'll have to use 2nd, even if you short
> shift, to get the revs up faster. It *is* possible ro run 2nd and shift.
> From racing in the IGPLC, what the fast guys do is hard, but I believe
> Lesmo1 is sacrificed - a late and fast entry to keep the speed up
> through the turn. Max speed between the two Lesmos isn't that important,
> it's your exit from 2 that counts. Stay in 3rd, and you'll be outdragged
> after Lesmo2..
> Also, a too slow entry into 1, and you'll be outbraked, which is highly
> unlikely into 2, since everybody wants speed down the straights....ahh
> racing, don't you love it! :-)

> Matt
> --
> -----------------------------------------
> Matthew Knutsen

> "The Art of Legends" - GPL add-ons
> www.cheekracing.electra.no/GPL/simrace1.htm
> -----------------------------------------

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