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by **Matthew Birger Knutse** » Tue, 23 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:07:54 +0100, Matthew Knutsen

> >> Unlike apparently everyone else here, I take both Lesmos in 3rd. Mind
> >> you, my best at Monza in the Lotus is only 131.95. I just like to stay
> >> on the track and in control, and I find that using 3rd keeps the arse
> >> from sliding out so easily when you accelerate out of the turns. I also
> >> regularly run intermediate short races without damaging the engine. My
> >> 2 cents worth.
> >This is a good strategy, but if you want to be really consistently quick
> >(running low to mid 28s), you'll have to use 2nd, even if you short
> >shift, to get the revs up faster. It *is* possible ro run 2nd and shift.
> >From racing in the IGPLC, what the fast guys do is hard, but I believe
> >Lesmo1 is sacrificed - a late and fast entry to keep the speed up
> >through the turn. Max speed between the two Lesmos isn't that important,
> >it's your exit from 2 that counts. Stay in 3rd, and you'll be outdragged
> >after Lesmo2..

> Well I'm using 3rd gear in both Lesmos. My best is 1:27.37 so it isn't
> actually very slow.

LOL!

Hehe, I know GH..but your driving style is just raw:-)
Boring? I think Monza is great for online races. It really is surprising
to watch
replays, and compare them. Driving styles are very different, and still
lap times are
close...
Racing on VROC one particular race, a mate was doing exactly the same
laptimes as me,
but we nearly crashed every lap at two spots; T1 and Para.
He nearly hit me in the middle of T1, while I zoomed past him in
Parabolica.
And our straightline speeds were exactly the same...
And those were laps in the 27.7-28.1 bracket!

good stuff:-)

Matt
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by **Greger Hut** » Thu, 25 Mar 1999 04:00:00

>> Maybe I could go faster after tweaking the gear ratios and taking the
>> Lesmos in second but Monza is such a boring track that I've never
>> bothered. :)
>hehe... I agree Gregor. I am a little behind at Monza because I just
>don't find it all that enjoyable... I'll have to practice there more
>prior to the next GPLWS race there! :-)

Yeah, same here. Maybe the Eagle could be a good choice for Monza and
especially Spa.

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by **Greger Hut** » Thu, 25 Mar 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 22:39:38 +0100, Matthew Birger Knutsen

> On Mon, 22 Mar 1999 09:07:54 +0100, Matthew Knutsen

>> Maybe I could go faster after tweaking the gear ratios and taking the
>> Lesmos in second but Monza is such a boring track that I've never
>> bothered. :)
>Hehe, I know GH..but your driving style is just raw:-)
>Boring? I think Monza is great for online races. It really is surprising
>to watch
>replays, and compare them. Driving styles are very different, and still
>lap times are
>close...
>Racing on VROC one particular race, a mate was doing exactly the same
>laptimes as me,
>but we nearly crashed every lap at two spots; T1 and Para.
>He nearly hit me in the middle of T1, while I zoomed past him in
>Parabolica.
>And our straightline speeds were exactly the same...
>And those were laps in the 27.7-28.1 bracket!

>good stuff:-)

I'm falling asleep on those straights. It's the same with Spa. I
really don't like these tracks. Spa has some nice corners but there
are too many straights and they are just too long. :)
I like Rouen and Zandvoort much more. Online racing is of course
different, usually at Monza you get close battles for position. My
driving style is _raw_? :)

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by **schwab** » Thu, 25 Mar 1999 04:00:00

> snip <
> I like Rouen and Zandvoort much more. Online racing is of course
> different, usually at Monza you get close battles for position. My
> driving style is _raw_? :)

We agree again Gregor!! :-) Rouen has it's share of straights, but is
VERY challenging. And IMHO, Zandy is the most FUN track in GPL... the
Ring is my favorite, because of its complexity and just the fact that
Papy DID it... but Zandy is my favorite for fun!

Let the sliding commence!! :-)

--Dave

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by **Graeme Nas** » Sun, 28 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Same here :-) Rouen, Zandvoort and the Ring are my three faves too!

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by **Greger Hut** » Mon, 29 Mar 1999 04:00:00

On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:33:49 +0000, Graeme Nash

>>We agree again Gregor!! :-)
>Same here :-) Rouen, Zandvoort and the Ring are my three faves too!

Here are mine:

1. Ring
2. Zandvoort
3. Rouen
4. Mosport
5. Kyalami
6. Watking Glen
7. Spa
8. Silverstone
9. Monza
10. Monaco
11. Mexico

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by **Graeme Nas** » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

Hey Greger!

Hmm, for me it's something like this....

1. Rouen

2. Ring

3. Zandvoort

4. Spa

5. Monza

6. Watkins Glen

7. Silverstone

8. Kyalami - Although it'll move up the list when I do a 1m18 :-)

9. Mexico

10. Mosport

11. Monaco

Graeme Nash

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by **Remco Moe** » Tue, 30 Mar 1999 04:00:00

<Znib>

And for me, anything except Monaco.

Remco

by **Ren?? van Lobbere** » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

My list :
1 Ring
2 Ring
3 Ring
:)

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by **Greger Hut** » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

On Mon, 29 Mar 1999 22:43:05 +0100, Graeme Nash

>>10. Monaco
>10. Mosport

You don't like Mosport? I really like those up & downhills. It's
really great when you get the setup right and just fly down the hill,
then two slow corners and then full throttle uphill section and a
little jump at the braking point. Great! :)

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by **Graeme Nas** » Wed, 31 Mar 1999 04:00:00

No, I just find it really hard to stay on the track. My concentration on
just keeping the car pointing the right way takes away all the enjoyment
of chucking the car through the turns. It's a nightmare for league races
where you need to stay on to win!

Oh, and Kyalami has moved up my list because at last I ran a 1m18 :-)

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by **UnserFan** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

God, I hate Mosport! You can never stay on that damn track, even in the BRM!
Nburgring is much much much easier than that hellhole!

Dan Belcher
Team Racing Unlimited

by **Greger Hut** » Thu, 01 Apr 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 30 Mar 1999 23:26:43 +0100, Graeme Nash

>>You don't like Mosport?
>No, I just find it really hard to stay on the track. My concentration on
>just keeping the car pointing the right way takes away all the enjoyment
>of chucking the car through the turns. It's a nightmare for league races
>where you need to stay on to win!

Yeah, it's hard at least until you find a good setup. I won the FGPLC
there, and it was fun. :)

Congratulations! I wonder when somebody will do a 1:17.xx. :)
Monaco moved to bottom of my list after last night's NTT race. My car
was just all over the place during the race and eventually I finished
second. It's the most demanding race because you just can't rest!
Acceleration, braking, turn-in and so on. And the car just doesn't
want to keep straight under acceleration. I just don't like the damn
place! :)

Hopefully tonight's race goes better.

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Greger Huttu

by **David Ewin** » Fri, 02 Apr 1999 04:00:00

> God, I hate Mosport! You can never stay on that damn track, even in the BRM!
> Nburgring is much much much easier than that hellhole!

Different strokes, I guess. I really enjoy Mosport and don't have much
trouble keeping it on the track - well, except for going into that last
sequence of turns after the long straight. It's pretty tough to hit
that rise, get on the brakes as your car is settling down, and make the
right hand turn.

Now, Monaco, that's another story.

Dave Ewing

by **Eldre** » Mon, 05 Apr 1999 05:00:00

Huttu) writes:
>On Sat, 27 Mar 1999 17:33:49 +0000, Graeme Nash

>>>We agree again Gregor!! :-)
>>Same here :-) Rouen, Zandvoort and the Ring are my three faves too!

>Here are mine:

>1. Ring
>2. Zandvoort
>3. Rouen
>4. Mosport
>5. Kyalami
>6. Watking Glen
>7. Spa
>8. Silverstone
>9. Monza
>10. Monaco
>11. Mexico

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>Greger Huttu

I see that the better drivers seem to prefer the more twisty tracks... Me? I
can't STAND Zandvoort and Monaco. I think I've done *maybe* 7 laps at the
Ring. Obviously, I'm not that good yet. My favorite is Spa, but I'm slow
there. I like Watkins and Silverstone, and run Monza to build confidence... :)
I haven't done enough laps at the other tracks to comment. I got hooked on
Starcraft, so I haven't played *any* GPL recently... Gotta dust off the
wheel... <g>

Eldred

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