rec.autos.simulators

by **Screami** » Sun, 19 Apr 1998 04:00:00

What can I tell you...

1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
track when starting F1RS
2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
sky
3. Invisible cars on occasion
4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
of your car.
5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
laps.
6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
sure its enabled.
9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
made sure its enabled.
10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
expert/realistic
skill level.
11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
its also inaccurate.
12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
view...even after cutting the graphics back.
13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
have end task & restart game.
18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
show up.
19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
not informative enough

Realistic/Expert settings
100% race distance
1.08 patched
USA version (if there is one)
2nd install of F1RS
233 AMD K6
ASUS TX97 motherboard
WIN95 B version
Monster I 3dfx
Matrox Millenium I
64 meg SDRAM
T2 wheel & pedals
Soundblaster 16
300 MB swap file

And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
is much more fun than actually playing it.
Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

-Screamin

by **DPHI** » Sun, 19 Apr 1998 04:00:00

The only thing I'll agree with you on.

I've never experienced any of the graphic problems you have encountered after
playing every day for two months now.

F1RS has always started right up, never crashed and, frankly, is a fine piece
of work IMO.

P233MMX, Pure3D, Millinium2 4MG, 64MG Ram,TMGP1.

Sorry your having so much trouble, F1RS is a blast to drive when it runs
correctly.

Don

by **Ken** » Sun, 19 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Funny, the only "bugs" I've ever had are #7, 11(not a bug) and #16(again
not a bug). As to your other 16 points, I find them either incorrect or
they don't happen on my system. This after racing on all the tracks and
after 100+ hours in this incredible sim. It may not be perfect but it is
far from eye candy. Perhaps there is a problem with your system? Just a
thought.
Ken
The Game Pad
http://gamepad.org/

> What can I tell you...

> 1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
> track when starting F1RS
> 2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
> sky
> 3. Invisible cars on occasion
> 4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
> of your car.
> 5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
> laps.
> 6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
> 7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
> 8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
> sure its enabled.
> 9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
> made sure its enabled.
> 10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
> expert/realistic
> skill level.
> 11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
> its also inaccurate.
> 12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
> 13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
> 14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
> 15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
> 16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
> 17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
> have end task & restart game.
> 18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
> show up.
> 19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
> not informative enough

> Realistic/Expert settings
> 100% race distance
> 1.08 patched
> USA version (if there is one)
> 2nd install of F1RS
> 233 AMD K6
> ASUS TX97 motherboard
> WIN95 B version
> Monster I 3dfx
> Matrox Millenium I
> 64 meg SDRAM
> T2 wheel & pedals
> Soundblaster 16
> 300 MB swap file

> And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
> be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
> is much more fun than actually playing it.
> Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
> playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
> an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

> -Screamin

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
1.always had sound.
2.Never seen a black sky yet.
3.Never had any invisible cars.
4.Pit lane fine.
5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the garage
6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
mine are around 7-8 seconds)
7.All my setups are the same after saving.
8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
10.Agree with you here.
11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
13.Agree here.
14.Not true at all.
15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
16.Menus are very slow.
17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
19.It`s never been a problem for me.

So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
one of the best F1 sim around.
I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

Simon.

>What can I tell you...

>1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
> track when starting F1RS
>2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
> sky
>3. Invisible cars on occasion
>4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
> of your car.
>5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
>laps.
>6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
>7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
>8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
> sure its enabled.
>9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
> made sure its enabled.
>10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
>expert/realistic
> skill level.
>11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
> its also inaccurate.
>12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
>13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
>14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
>15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
>16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
>17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
> have end task & restart game.
>18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
> show up.
>19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
> not informative enough

>Realistic/Expert settings
>100% race distance
>1.08 patched
>USA version (if there is one)
>2nd install of F1RS
>233 AMD K6
>ASUS TX97 motherboard
>WIN95 B version
>Monster I 3dfx
>Matrox Millenium I
>64 meg SDRAM
>T2 wheel & pedals
>Soundblaster 16
>300 MB swap file

>And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
>be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
>is much more fun than actually playing it.
>Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
>playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
>an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

>-Screamin

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

>This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
>November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
>1.always had sound.
>2.Never seen a black sky yet.
>3.Never had any invisible cars.
>4.Pit lane fine.
>5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the
garage
>6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
>mine are around 7-8 seconds)
>7.All my setups are the same after saving.
>8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
>9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
>10.Agree with you here.
>11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
>12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
>13.Agree here.
>14.Not true at all.
>15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
>16.Menus are very slow.
>17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
>18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
>19.It`s never been a problem for me.

>So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
>one of the best F1 sim around.
>I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
>to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

>Simon.

>>>What can I tell you...

>>>1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
>>> track when starting F1RS
>>>2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
>>> sky
>>>3. Invisible cars on occasion
>>>4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
>>> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
>>> of your car.
>>>5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
>>>laps.
>>>6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
>>> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
>>>7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
>>> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
>>>8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
>>> sure its enabled.
>>>9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
>>> made sure its enabled.
>>>10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
>>>expert/realistic
>>> skill level.
>>>11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
>>> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
>>> its also inaccurate.
>>>12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
>>> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
>>>13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
>>>14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
>>> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
>>> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
>>>15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
>>>16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
>>> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
>>>17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
>>> have end task & restart game.
>>>18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
>>> show up.
>>>19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
>>> not informative enough

>>>Realistic/Expert settings
>>>100% race distance
>>>1.08 patched
>>>USA version (if there is one)
>>>2nd install of F1RS
>>>233 AMD K6
>>>ASUS TX97 motherboard
>>>WIN95 B version
>>>Monster I 3dfx
>>>Matrox Millenium I
>>>64 meg SDRAM
>>>T2 wheel & pedals
>>>Soundblaster 16
>>>300 MB swap file

>>>And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
>>>be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
>>>is much more fun than actually playing it.
>>>Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
>>>playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
>>>an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

>>>-Screamin

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
1.always had sound.
2.Never seen a black sky yet.
3.Never had any invisible cars.
4.Pit lane fine.
5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the garage
6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
mine are around 7-8 seconds)
7.All my setups are the same after saving.
8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
10.Agree with you here.
11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
13.Agree here.
14.Not true at all.
15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
16.Menus are very slow.
17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
19.It`s never been a problem for me.

So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
one of the best F1 sim around.
I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

Simon.

>>What can I tell you...

>>1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
>> track when starting F1RS
>>2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
>> sky
>>3. Invisible cars on occasion
>>4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
>> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
>> of your car.
>>5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
>>laps.
>>6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
>> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
>>7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
>> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
>>8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
>> sure its enabled.
>>9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
>> made sure its enabled.
>>10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
>>expert/realistic
>> skill level.
>>11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
>> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
>> its also inaccurate.
>>12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
>> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
>>13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
>>14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
>> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
>> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
>>15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
>>16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
>> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
>>17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
>> have end task & restart game.
>>18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
>> show up.
>>19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
>> not informative enough

>>Realistic/Expert settings
>>100% race distance
>>1.08 patched
>>USA version (if there is one)
>>2nd install of F1RS
>>233 AMD K6
>>ASUS TX97 motherboard
>>WIN95 B version
>>Monster I 3dfx
>>Matrox Millenium I
>>64 meg SDRAM
>>T2 wheel & pedals
>>Soundblaster 16
>>300 MB swap file

>>And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
>>be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
>>is much more fun than actually playing it.
>>Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
>>playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
>>an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

>>-Screamin

by **F1Filt** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

I myself have only had the problem with the "Black Sky" once in a while. And
that was usually only after I was resuming a weekend between the 1st Practice
and Qualifying sessions.

There was some sort of a rumor on the F1RacingSim board that a new patch may be
out according to someone who was sent an e-mail by the people that run the US
Ubisoft page. But as far as I know, that's all it is , a rumor.

One thing I have noticed is that the people who are having the most problems
with this sim, are people that are using a K6 processor and not some Pentium
based chip. Maybe it has something to do with the chip itself or the chipset
on the motherboard???

The only other tip I have found is to make sure that if you are running
FastVid, disable it as suggested in their own FAQ.

Sorry to all out there that are having problems, hopefully Ubisoft will fix
these problems soon enough.

F1Filter

by **Screami** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

> This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
> November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
> 1.always had sound.
> 2.Never seen a black sky yet.
> 3.Never had any invisible cars.
> 4.Pit lane fine.
> 5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the garage
> 6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
> mine are around 7-8 seconds)
> 7.All my setups are the same after saving.
> 8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
> 9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
> 10.Agree with you here.
> 11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
> 12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
> 13.Agree here.
> 14.Not true at all.
> 15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
> 16.Menus are very slow.
> 17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
> 18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
> 19.It`s never been a problem for me.

> So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
> one of the best F1 sim around.
> I also think you should check out http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

I was hoping it was apparent that this wasn't entirely a bug listbut also a
"Why the hell did do they do that?" list.
Anyways, all those "things" in my list do happen unfortunately
even after 2 different installs & updated patches :(.

The only problems that REALLY frustrate me are the
pitting, random outside view (sucks while in a high speed
corner) & the change of physics after 2nd pitstop (in
Melbourne, Interlagos but not in Argentina so far)
I can deal with the other ***but the above problems
make it more or less unraceable.
I could care less abut replays but since the telemetry
does not have individual wheel speed I like to use
the replay to see which wheel is the problem in a minor
brake lockup.

I'm glad I did get some replies..should help me see
where the problem might lie. If you guys aren't having
the problems I am...I'm wonderin if i got a bad CD.
Problem is, since I'm in the USA, not too many F1 fans
here hence not any installs to compare mine to.

Does anyone know how to find out what version I
have BEFORE the 1.08 patch? I'd like to try some
older versions if possible.

-Screamin

by **Tom Anderso** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

Screamin-

I haven't encountered any frame rate slow downs, loss of sound, or view
changes.
Neer seen a black sky or invisible cars. It sounds like you're talking
about some
other game. I'll have to go back and read your list more closely...

I have never patched the game at all. I'm using a 3dfx; I suspect your
framerate
slow down is due to the floating point problem with the AMD (I have a 200
Pentium).

Tom Anderson

by **Ronald Stoe** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

snip
> I'm glad I did get some replies..should help me see
> where the problem might lie. If you guys aren't having
> the problems I am...I'm wonderin if i got a bad CD.
> Problem is, since I'm in the USA, not too many F1 fans
> here hence not any installs to compare mine to.

No, definitly not a bad CD! ;^)

l8er
ronny

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by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

repost

>This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
>November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
>1.always had sound.
>2.Never seen a black sky yet.
>3.Never had any invisible cars.
>4.Pit lane fine.
>5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the garage
>6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
>mine are around 7-8 seconds)
>7.All my setups are the same after saving.
>8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
>9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
>10.Agree with you here.
>11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
>12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
>13.Agree here.
>14.Not true at all.
>15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
>16.Menus are very slow.
>17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
>18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
>19.It`s never been a problem for me.

>So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
>one of the best F1 sim around.
>I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
>to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

>Simon.

>>What can I tell you...

>>1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
>> track when starting F1RS
>>2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
>> sky
>>3. Invisible cars on occasion
>>4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
>> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
>> of your car.
>>5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
>>laps.
>>6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
>> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
>>7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
>> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
>>8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
>> sure its enabled.
>>9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
>> made sure its enabled.
>>10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
>>expert/realistic
>> skill level.
>>11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
>> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
>> its also inaccurate.
>>12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
>> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
>>13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
>>14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
>> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
>> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
>>15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
>>16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
>> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
>>17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
>> have end task & restart game.
>>18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
>> show up.
>>19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
>> not informative enough

>>Realistic/Expert settings
>>100% race distance
>>1.08 patched
>>USA version (if there is one)
>>2nd install of F1RS
>>233 AMD K6
>>ASUS TX97 motherboard
>>WIN95 B version
>>Monster I 3dfx
>>Matrox Millenium I
>>64 meg SDRAM
>>T2 wheel & pedals
>>Soundblaster 16
>>300 MB swap file

>>And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
>>be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
>>is much more fun than actually playing it.
>>Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
>>playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
>>an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

>>-Screamin

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

repost

>This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
>November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
>1.always had sound.
>2.Never seen a black sky yet.
>3.Never had any invisible cars.
>4.Pit lane fine.
>5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the
garage
>6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
>mine are around 7-8 seconds)
>7.All my setups are the same after saving.
>8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
>9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
>10.Agree with you here.
>11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
>12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
>13.Agree here.
>14.Not true at all.
>15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
>16.Menus are very slow.
>17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
>18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
>19.It`s never been a problem for me.

>So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
>one of the best F1 sim around.
>I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
>to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

>Simon.

>>>What can I tell you...

>>>1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
>>> track when starting F1RS
>>>2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
>>> sky
>>>3. Invisible cars on occasion
>>>4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
>>> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
>>> of your car.
>>>5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
>>>laps.
>>>6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
>>> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
>>>7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
>>> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
>>>8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
>>> sure its enabled.
>>>9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
>>> made sure its enabled.
>>>10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
>>>expert/realistic
>>> skill level.
>>>11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
>>> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
>>> its also inaccurate.
>>>12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
>>> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
>>>13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
>>>14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
>>> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
>>> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
>>>15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
>>>16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
>>> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
>>>17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
>>> have end task & restart game.
>>>18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
>>> show up.
>>>19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
>>> not informative enough

>>>Realistic/Expert settings
>>>100% race distance
>>>1.08 patched
>>>USA version (if there is one)
>>>2nd install of F1RS
>>>233 AMD K6
>>>ASUS TX97 motherboard
>>>WIN95 B version
>>>Monster I 3dfx
>>>Matrox Millenium I
>>>64 meg SDRAM
>>>T2 wheel & pedals
>>>Soundblaster 16
>>>300 MB swap file

>>>And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
>>>be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
>>>is much more fun than actually playing it.
>>>Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
>>>playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
>>>an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

>>>-Screamin

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

repost

>>This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
>>November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
>>1.always had sound.
>>2.Never seen a black sky yet.
>>3.Never had any invisible cars.
>>4.Pit lane fine.
>>5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the
>garage
>>6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
>>mine are around 7-8 seconds)
>>7.All my setups are the same after saving.
>>8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
>>9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
>>10.Agree with you here.
>>11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
>>12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
>>13.Agree here.
>>14.Not true at all.
>>15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
>>16.Menus are very slow.
>>17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
>>18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
>>19.It`s never been a problem for me.

>>So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
>>one of the best F1 sim around.
>>I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
>>to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

>>Simon.

>>>>What can I tell you...

>>>>1. There is always a 50% chance you won't have sound on the
>>>> track when starting F1RS
>>>>2. If there is any chance of humidity you tend to have a "black"
>>>> sky
>>>>3. Invisible cars on occasion
>>>>4. When crossing pitlane entrance at any track during a race there
>>>> seems to be a random chance of switching to the outside view
>>>> of your car.
>>>>5. Fuel mileage is not displayed in setup sometimes even after many
>>>>laps.
>>>>6. Even after setting up a pit strategy you have to manually enter
>>>> the amount of fuel you want at each pitstop in a race.
>>>>7. When saving setups sometimes your values are different after
>>>> you save...they are often different when printing a setup.
>>>>8. The false start functions when it wants to...even after making
>>>> sure its enabled.
>>>>9. The replay functions when it wants to...even after I've
>>>> made sure its enabled.
>>>>10. No restart function...though this may be disabled in
>>>>expert/realistic
>>>> skill level.
>>>>11. Telemetry is awful...no wheelspin, superimposing crashes the
>>>> game...no description of editing controls in Telemetry. Oh, and
>>>> its also inaccurate.
>>>>12. Horrendous frame rate slowdown when many cars are in front
>>>> view...even after cutting the graphics back.
>>>>13. When exiting your pit during a race it goes to external view.
>>>>14. Even when you have 20 good tires in storage, your car on the
>>>> last sprint of a race will be VERY loose...whether the game
>>>> gives you used tires or takes away your rear wing I can't tell.
>>>>15. Not near enough breakdowns (including my own) or accidents.
>>>>16. The menu is by far the most user-unfriendly I have ever seen...
>>>> I say again...its absolutely horrendous.
>>>>17. Takes FAR too long to end race if you decide to abandon it...
>>>> have end task & restart game.
>>>>18. When the replay function does work...various graphics bugs
>>>> show up.
>>>>19. Lap info & times are too far up the screen to view safely...and
>>>> not informative enough

>>>>Realistic/Expert settings
>>>>100% race distance
>>>>1.08 patched
>>>>USA version (if there is one)
>>>>2nd install of F1RS
>>>>233 AMD K6
>>>>ASUS TX97 motherboard
>>>>WIN95 B version
>>>>Monster I 3dfx
>>>>Matrox Millenium I
>>>>64 meg SDRAM
>>>>T2 wheel & pedals
>>>>Soundblaster 16
>>>>300 MB swap file

>>>>And this is only after racing two tracks! I'm sure there will
>>>>be more bugs to follow...as tracking down major defects in F1RS
>>>>is much more fun than actually playing it.
>>>>Another $40 box of eye candy lacking in substance and actual
>>>>playability...I suppose we bring this upon ourselves...give em
>>>>an inch & they will take us mile after mile.

>>>>-Screamin

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

to answer screamin.

This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
1.always had sound.
2.Never seen a black sky yet.
3.Never had any invisible cars.
4.Pit lane fine.
5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the garage
6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
mine are around 7-8 seconds)
7.All my setups are the same after saving.
8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
10.Agree with you here.
11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
13.Agree here.
14.Not true at all.
15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
16.Menus are very slow.
17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
19.It`s never been a problem for me.

So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
one of the best F1 sim around.
I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

Simon.

by **Simo** » Mon, 20 Apr 1998 04:00:00

>to answer screamin.

>This is very strange,as I`ve been playing F1RS alot since I got it in
>November 97,and Most of what you say,I havn`t seen.?
>1.always had sound.
>2.Never seen a black sky yet.
>3.Never had any invisible cars.
>4.Pit lane fine.
>5.Fuel consumption is always in my setup after each time I go to the garage
>6.As long as you follow your own pit strategy,then it works fine(most of
>mine are around 7-8 seconds)
>7.All my setups are the same after saving.
>8.Not sure about false starts,as I`ve never made one.
>9.I don`t use the replay function,so can not comment on that.
>10.Agree with you here.
>11.telemetry is not as good as GP2,I agree.
>12.Never seen a big frame rate slowdown,sometime slight at first corner.
>13.Agree here.
>14.Not true at all.
>15.I`ve had and seen lots of accidents and breakdowns.
>16.Menus are very slow.
>17.agree that there should be a way to get out of the game easier.
>18.I don`t use replay,so can not comment.
>19.It`s never been a problem for me.

>So to sum up,I`ve had plenty of fantastic race`s so far,and think this is
>one of the best F1 sim around.
>I also think you should check out http://www.f1racingsim.com
>to find out why you seem to have so many problems.

>Simon.

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F1RS...the BUGGIEST game ever?

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