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The worse wreck I ever saw...

The Black Cat =^..^

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by The Black Cat =^..^ » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 11:51:21


The only thing I saw of the Greg Moor accident were a couple of
stills.  I never ever want to see a video of it.

BTW, how about Alex Zanardi's wreck in Germany -- nobody's mentioned
that yet, I don't think...

jason moy

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by jason moy » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:38:38

On 16 Oct 2003 02:39:46 GMT, David Buttery



>> They both pale to Tom Pryce at Kyalami in 1977.  Possibly the most
>> horrific thing ever broadcast live on TV.

>> Jason

>Roger Williamson? I wasn't even born when that happened, and I've
>*still* had nightmares about it.

Ugh yeah.  Mark Donahue.  Erm, also that guy who burned to death on
the grid in Canada in 81 or 82.

F1 has had a ton of accidents that make anything in nascar seem
downright tame.  Even something like Berger's fiery crash at
Hockenheim, etc.

I feel kinda bad hyping that now.

Jason

jason moy

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by jason moy » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:40:53



Someone's car is disabled towards the end of the long front straight.
Marshalls rush across the track to aid to him.  Tom Pryce comes over
the brow, unable to avoid the second marshall.  Fire extinguisher hits
him in the head killing him instantly.  Marshall is shredded to
pieces.  Pryce's car continues at full chat all the way down the
straight and has a horrible collision with the fence at the end.

It might not sound bad, but it's something you never ever ever ever
want to see if you can help it.

Jason

jason moy

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by jason moy » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:42:38


>For years, the worst wreck I ever saw at a race was Michael Waltrips
>gate-removal trick at Bristol.  To see a car go from 120mph to 0 in less
>than a second and the whole thing disentigrate like a crash-mobile from my
>childhood (anyone remember those?), and to see him basically pop the roof
>off and climb out was, well, astonishing.

To pop the roof off?

I thought Michael was basically laying flat on the tarrmac with the
roof on him when everything was said and done.

There was a similar accident this year, I believe in ARCA or the Busch
series?  Similar circumstances as I remember...the gate wasn't
securely hinged, someone hit it, and it severed the car in half.

Jason

Dave Henri

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Dave Henri » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:03:57





> It might not sound bad, but it's something you never ever ever ever
> want to see if you can help it.

> Jason

   No that DOES sound bad...
John DiFoo

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by John DiFoo » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 13:10:20



>>After seeing Kenny Breck's wreck at Texas this weekend, I may have to
>>re-consider.  It's a close call, though.

>Tom Sneva - Indy 1975
>Stan Fox - Indy...1999?
>Greg Moore - California

>Eldred

Gordon Smiley 1981 IIRC...

     JD

Ed Solhei

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Ed Solhei » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:35:07

"David Buttery" said:

That incident at Zandvoort is one of the most heartbreaking accidents I've
ever seen.
Seeing David Purley desperatly attempt to rescue him and imaging how
frustrated Purley must have been over the fire-marshalls vague attempt at
putting the fire out - will stick to my mind forever.

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Ruud Dingeman

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Ruud Dingeman » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 15:32:02


>>After seeing Kenny Breck's wreck at Texas this weekend, I may have to
>>re-consider.
> Tom Sneva - Indy 1975
> Stan Fox - Indy...1999?

I still have a clip of David Coulthard's F1 start crash at Spa (in '98 I
think). Horrific as Brack's crash looks, now THAT was a wreck  ;)   (or
rather, a whole pile of wrecks).

Not to mention the T1 Real Big Une this afternoon at Monza... I never
knew me Eagle could fly THAT high ('twas so spectacular I even saved the
replay, and we've all seen some T1 action). I think only one car may
have escaped this one, and only because it had already crashed beforehand.

Regards, Rudy
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Dean Purd

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Dean Purd » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:33:45


Actually it was during practice in 1982. Agreed, probably the worst I've
ever seen.

                                   See ya in the pits,
                                           Dean

I have a terrible memory. In fact my memory's so bad I can't remember how
long it's been since I've forgotten anything.

Ken MacKa

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Ken MacKa » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 20:38:37

This sort of thing doesn't just happen on ovals though.  Was reminded of Jeff
Krosnoff at Toronto Indy.  Car hooked wheels with another (Johannsen?) went up
into the fence and hit a tree or light pole on the way, plus a wheel hit and
killed a marshall.  Will never forget seeing his legs sticking out of what
remained of the car, his body slumped forward in the belts...
Larr

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:27:24

He's partly right, partly wrong, partly arrogant, and partly ignorant.

In otherwords, a decent balance.

-Larry



> >For years, the worst wreck I ever saw at a race was Michael Waltrips
> >gate-removal trick at Bristol.  To see a car go from 120mph to 0 in less
> >than a second and the whole thing disentigrate like a crash-mobile from
my
> >childhood (anyone remember those?), and to see him basically pop the roof
> >off and climb out was, well, astonishing.

> >Now, I'm on the fence (no pun intended).

> >After seeing Kenny Breck's wreck at Texas this weekend, I may have to
> >re-consider.  It's a close call, though.

> >Kenny's wreck was definitely in the "There's NO way that guy is still
alive"
> >catagory.  Especially since his helmet was shoved into the fence AND the
> >track on two different occasions.

> >I'm glad he got away with minor injuries (considering).  I've never seen
a
> >race car spin like a top like that before.  Astonishing...

> >This was, for all intents and purposes, an airplane crash.

> http://espn.go.com/rpm/irl/2003/1013/1637489.html

> Pretty much sums up my opinion about it, though I'm not entirely
> unbiased on the matter. I f**n hate ovals. Now even moreso.

Larr

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:33:36

Oh, my.

It sounds plenty bad...

-Larry


Gary

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Gary » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:29:26




> >   The Geoff Bodine truck disentigration(sp?) was a biggie...So was
> >Waltrips...I still remember that Yellow Pontiac just stopping.  I haven't
> >seen the Pryce accident..that I know of

> Someone's car is disabled towards the end of the long front straight.
> Marshalls rush across the track to aid to him.  Tom Pryce comes over
> the brow, unable to avoid the second marshall.  Fire extinguisher hits
> him in the head killing him instantly.  Marshall is shredded to
> pieces.  Pryce's car continues at full chat all the way down the
> straight and has a horrible collision with the fence at the end.

> It might not sound bad, but it's something you never ever ever ever
> want to see if you can help it.

> Jason

I'll second the Pryce accident as being one of the worst. Seeing that
marshall get sliced in half is pretty gruesome. The one that breaks my
heart is Gilles Villeneuve's fatal crash. Seeing him go flying across
the track into the catch fence and knowing it killed him still makes me
sad.

Gary

Larr

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:42:15

I think it was during practice for the 1990 race.

Bristol has a fence that opens to let cars, etc... across the track.

Michael came off of turn 4 (or is it 2?) and and caught the corner of the
wall dead-on where the fence attaches.  The car literally went from 120mph
to absolute zero in less than a second.  No bounce, no nothing.  It
literally stopped dead in place like you hit pause on your VCR.

The car literally disentegrated.  Completely.  It was literally a pile of
rubble sitting on the track, everyone was holding their breath in disbelief
at what had just happened, including Darrel who happened to be in the
announcers booth at the time.

If I remember the scene correctly, all of a sudden the roof panel (or what
was left of it) suddenly flew up and Michael popped his head up out of the
pile of rubble.  Similar to what he did in Daytona a few weeks ago, except
slighly less intentional :)

If I remember correctly, he barely got a scratch and ran the race that
weekend in a backup car.

You could not even tell what was left was once a race-car.

I believe it is on display, as it sat on the track, in the Bristol show-room
to this day.

If I'm not mistaken, the same thing happened to a driver in one of the
lesser-series a few years ago, but it wasn't quite as dramatic.

-Larry



writes:

> >For years, the worst wreck I ever saw at a race was Michael Waltrips
> >gate-removal trick at Bristol.  To see a car go from 120mph to 0 in less
> >than a second and the whole thing disentigrate like a crash-mobile from
my
> >childhood (anyone remember those?), and to see him basically pop the roof
> >off and climb out was, well, astonishing.

> I'm not sure I've seen that one.  Was that the one where the camera is
looking
> right down the wall at a blank track, and the car comes into the shot
suddenly?

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Larr

The worse wreck I ever saw...

by Larr » Fri, 17 Oct 2003 21:43:39

You're not in the minority.  I think the grandstands and television numbers
bear that fact.

I've taken in road racing much more in the last few years, but I simply
cannot stand to watch a street course.

-Larry




> I don't want *anybody* to get hurt, but I still love watching racing on
ovals.
> Always have, always will.  Maybe I'm just in the minority...

> Eldred
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