rec.autos.simulators

by **Ronald Stoe** » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

> >As I am probably going to get a brand new computer sometime in the near
> >future that
> >can flawlessly handle either, I am wondering which simulation is better.

> If I were you, for better graphics, realism and gameplay I would
> choose F1RS.

> If you want just pure simple arcade action where you need no brains,
> get GP2. It is more like Atari's Pole Position really. Very
> unrealistic game, but then some people like GP2 for that.

That's funny! No, that's silly dedication to a software product...

l8er
ronny

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by **Matthias Buesi** » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

T> As I am probably going to get a brand new computer sometime in the near
T> future that
T> can flawlessly handle either, I am wondering which simulation is better.

Without a doubt: F1RS kicks ass - forget about those oldiesims without
weather and 3dfx-support...

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by **Matthias Buesi** » Fri, 07 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Salve SGreen46 !!!

S>>can flawlessly handle either, I am wondering >which simulation is
S>>better.
S>
S> For Graphics F1RS

1000% agree, but...
S>
S> For realism and gameplay GP2

ROTFL ! Just name 3 facts where GP2 is better. Eargerly waiting ;-)

S> .......let the arcade players use F1RS and the sim fans use GP2

Sorry, but ROTFL again ! Maybe you should play F1RS in simulation-
mode, eh ? There is NO better F1-simulation, IMHO.

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by **Greg Cisk** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

>>If you want just pure simple arcade action where you need no brains,
>>get GP2. It is more like Atari's Pole Position really. Very
>>unrealistic game, but then some people like GP2 for that.

>Troll! Troll! ;-)

Oh I don't know, I sort of agreed with him :-)

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by **Nopp** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

>Troll! Troll! ;-)

That is not any more a troll than the message saying F1RS is an arcade
game.

by **Nopp** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

>You obviously know *nothing* about simulations at all to make a
>statement like this?

About as much as the guy calling F1RS an arcade racing game.

Hey, weren't you people just bashing those guys who were complaining
about that message? So how come you now think I can't have my opinion
then?

I guess you think people have right to have an opinion only if it
matches your opinion. Too bad for you.

by **John Walla** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

>>Troll! Troll! ;-)

>That is not any more a troll than the message saying F1RS is an arcade
>game.

Er yes that would be true, but no-one said that. They did say that GP2
was an arcade game, and either of those statements would adequately
qualify as a bona-fide troll, hence my comment.

Cheers!
John

by **John Walla** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

On 07 Aug 1998 06:09:03 PDT, "Greg Cisko"

>Oh I don't know, I sort of agreed with him :-)

Troll, troll!

Cheers!
John

by **a..** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

to me F1rs always feels like I'm floating along above the track (a
3dfx symptom perhaps?)

whereas GP2 feels more like I expect.

But it is very subjective: get them both and decide for yourself.

by **Jay Wolf** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

> >If I were you, for better graphics, realism and gameplay I would
> >choose F1RS.

> >If you want just pure simple arcade action where you need no brains,
> >get GP2. It is more like Atari's Pole Position really. Very
> >unrealistic game, but then some people like GP2 for that.

i own GP2 and like it just fine despite being a NASCAR2 kinda guy. all of
the F1RS ***s in here make me not even want to try it. shoot, i'll wait
until papy comes out with GPL instead.

j

by **Laurence Lindstro** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

> to me F1rs always feels like I'm floating along above the track (a
> 3dfx symptom perhaps?)

> whereas GP2 feels more like I expect.

> But it is very subjective: get them both and decide for yourself.

I know what you are talking about. My thinking is that at
40 MPH I get that drifting going around a curve in my car. It
is the tires squirming and slipping on the road. I believe
extrapolating this to 120 MPH, or 150 MPH, would result in that
"Floating" feeling you describe. A small slip angle at that
speed would feel like a lot of transversal movement.

People whose opinion I respect, don't think it would work like
this in a Formula 1 car. All I know is that it fits with my
experience and expectations, which are at 100 MPH less, with a
quarter of the tire contact patch, in small cars that weigh 1000
pounds more. We drive so much we have our expectations of how a
car should handle. Many people love F1RS, I think this is why.

I'm NOT suggesting that F1RS is accurate. I'm skeptical of
those who claim GP2 is. I think that floating feeling, and other
subtle things F1RS models, are the most important aspects of what
makes driving fast on real twisty roads fun.

Michael Schomacher? Johnny Herbert? Please comment.

Larry

by **Greg Cisk** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

>>If you want just pure simple arcade action where you need no brains,
>>get GP2. It is more like Atari's Pole Position really. Very
>>unrealistic game, but then some people like GP2 for that.

>Troll! Troll! ;-)

Oh I don't know. I sort of agreed with him :-)

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by **Jim Dunph** » Sat, 08 Aug 1998 04:00:00

for straight play and a real sense of the road... GP2
everything else....F1RS.
this is the future of sim racing

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>T> As I am probably going to get a brand new computer sometime in the near
>T> future that
>T> can flawlessly handle either, I am wondering which simulation is better.

>Without a doubt: F1RS kicks ass - forget about those oldiesims without
>weather and 3dfx-support...

>Also, man mailt sich...

>.\\atze [ FmMW2109 - FmMB2139 ]

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by **Byron Forbe** » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00

My name is Troll. I just like to say that all games are arcade. Thankyou.

> >Troll! Troll! ;-)

> That is not any more a troll than the message saying F1RS is an arcade
> game.

by **Janne Hosa** » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00

>i own GP2 and like it just fine despite being a NASCAR2 kinda guy. all of
>the F1RS ***s in here make me not even want to try it.

Then how come you are playing GP2, since there was this one "GP2
***" who said F1RS is just for arcade racers? It is indeed
interesting to notice how many of you think it is inexcusable insult
if someone calls GP2 an arcade game, but when someone calls F1RS the
same, that's quite fine. Get your head out of your ass.

That is not a modern F1 simulation. The racing cars of sixties were
quite different. You could just as well buy Jane's F15 for a F1
simulation.

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