rec.autos.simulators

Chris

Chris its because Scott does not think its a Sim.

Dave

PassedYa

In the opinion of the website staff, games like Burnout and NHRA are more
worthily as a sim than SCGT.  Unfortunate, but hey it's their opinion 8)

In my opinion... if they ever want to be a big website, they need to have a
much wider view.  They should take a peek at the other major simracing
websites (thePits, Simracing.com, etc..).  They all have SCGT as a
simulator.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

I love Viper Racing, but notice how it isn't on that list either?  When we
sat down to decide which sims we would cover, we did so with the 'going
forward' thought process.  It would have been very, very hard to try and
play catch up with so many good sites out there.  Burnout and GP500 will
probably also come off our list as we cannot find anyone interested in
running those sections due to other sites pretty much offering the service
for those titles and the community for those sims are somewhat limited.

With GPL, we decided to do so because we had some individuals, including
myself, who are very intersted in running the page and GPL is THE sim to
date.

SCGT is extremely well covered by GTInsider and a few other sites and you
are correct in that I personally have no intersest, nor time, in running
such a page and we have had no offers of significance to change such.
However, if anyone wishes to announce patches, add-ons, leagues, etc and
want us to place a link to them on our new section, we are more than happy
to do so.

The only titles we avoid are games like Need For Speed, test drive, LeMans
<G>, and other such arcade titles.  Those are not the type of titles we wish
to cover.  We wish to cover racing simulations only.  Again, that is NOT the
reason behind not covering SCGT.

Thanks,
Scott
PA-Scott

--
Scott B. Husted
"PA-Scott"
COO
MMMGI
ICQ# 4395450

http://www.MMMGI.com
http://www.Acrotech.net
http://www.Powersims.com
http://www.InternetMotorsports.net

If there is enough interest in SCGT we would be happy to cover it however to
date we have never been questioned why we dont cover it other than this
thread.  So if someone here would like to step up and offer some time in

To be honest with you we still consider PowerSims to be in a pre-release
format.  This is why we have not implemented any META info or submitted to
any search engines as of yet.  Once we get full content for the listed sims
we hope to add even more titles and sections that may include titles like
Viper Racing and a few others.  On the other hand it looks like the year
2000 is going to keep us very busy with all the promising releases that are
scheduled.

Keep the feedback coming as we learn from our site visitors and do what we
can to continue to improve the PowerSims site.

--
Mike Schmidt aka Acrotech
Sales & Marketing Officer
MMMGI
http://www.mmmgi.com
http://www.internetmotorsports.net
http://www.powersims.com
http://www.acrotech.net

    I know this has nothing to do with sim racing per se, but I found a
picture of the Vigara-sponsored NASCAR Grand Prix on Jayski's site and
thought some of you might be amused by it since the topic 'came up' in this
group a little while ago.

http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2000/27viagra.jpg

~daxe "I have no need for this...yet" rexford

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I dont think anyone on the PowerSims staff has said that in their opinion
SCGT is not a sim nor have we ever placed any single sim higher on our list
of importance over any other sim...PERIOD.  Frank, please stop trying to
read other peoples minds, you may be a super "genius" but your not a mind
reader.  Your statement could not be any further from the truth.  As for
Burnout we are working on changing that section over to the newer version
which seems to have a large following.  That is one title where the racers
from that community have been in contact with us offering information.
Since I dont play Burnout I was not 100% sure what the following was, but it
does seem to be large with the newest version ( I cant think of the title of
the top of my head right now..... think its NIRA)

Our goal is not to be a "big site"  what ever that means??  Our goal is to
offer the content our visitors want to see and to provide unique content and
articles of interest to the sim racers.  Please read my reply above.  The
sites you mention have sections for SCGT but there seems to me little
content for it.  I have looked at a lot of sites that list SCGT and there
really does seem to be a lack of coverage for it.  I dont like to do
anything "half assed" per say but IMHO PowerSims is currently in that stage
since we have so much content still missing.  We are working as hard and
fast as we can to get it all posted and I dont want to start adding more
sims to our list if we cant give them the attention they need.  We hope by
the end of February to be caught up and organized in such a way that we can
continue to expand on our list of coverage.

--
Mike Schmidt aka Acrotech
Sales & Marketing Officer
MMMGI
http://www.mmmgi.com
http://www.internetmotorsports.net
http://www.powersims.com
http://www.acrotech.net

Mike not to defend Frank, but Scott openly said the game SCGT is not a sim.
 Additionally some of his reasoning to me was not correct since he said he
never drove any of the SCGTs GT2 or GT3 cars but then said they handled
nothing like the SCCA Club racing spec GT1 car he has driven.  But to set
it straight Scott said in a post on RAS that SCGT is not a sim in his mind.
 Not reading minds just reading posts.

Dave

Quote from my above post:

"Just to clear it up... I never said I expected it to handle like GPL.  All
I
said was I have driven a GT-1, and the GT-1 in SportsCar GT does NOT handle
like
the GT-1 I raced.  I would not expect it to 'feel' like a 1967 F1 car, but
if
its a 'sim', I would expect it to handle more like a GT-1 than I feel it
does
currently.

Ive never driven a GT-3 Porche or any other 3 so I cant speak for those in
terms
of personal experience.

Maybe we can get Tom Pabst to comment since I believe he has raced in
numerous
divisions of sports car racing."

I also said that I thought SCGT was in between arcade and sim in the physics
category.  I stand by MY opinion.

I also quote from my above post:

"Im going to get flamed to hell for this... but Im use to it <G>   I,
personally, feel SCGT is somewhere in between.  The patches that the
parties out there created definitely improved SCGT.  As released.... it
was pure arcade.   Now, though better, I put it somewhere in between.
SCGT was close to being a great sim, but didn't quite get there in the
physics category."

If you will also read my post above you will see why SCGT is not included on
PowerSims.com which is also reiterated by Mike.  He had nothing to do with
my personal opinion of the title.

I do not mind justifying my opinions, but please make sure the facts are
correct as well as the context when identifying what I said.  Im sure you
just misunderstood the part about driving the GT2 and GT3s.

Thanks,
Scott
PA-Scott

--
Scott B. Husted
"PA-Scott"
COO
MMMGI
ICQ# 4395450

http://www.MMMGI.com
http://www.Acrotech.net
http://www.Powersims.com
http://www.InternetMotorsports.net

Scott,

Sorry about that I misunderstood what you ment there on the GT3 cars, my
mistake.

Dave

<snip>  Sorry Mike as some of us misunderstood Scott's comment on a previous
thread about SCGT.  And never, ever think that a signature file is something
serious. Just a joke.

(and yes NIRA was the last title released by Bethesda about drag racing).  I
wonder if their new title (the Skip Barber school) will stop using the old
DOS game engine ?

<snip good arguments> >We hope by

We do hope.  The more the better!

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- May the Downforce be with you...

"People think it must be fun to be a super genius, but they don't realise
how hard it is to put up with all the idiots in the world."

WEll i run into alot of road race lover that have never heard or tried SCGT. I
just recently tried it after they released some updates and tons of new
Modification (IE:cars/dashed/sounds/tracks) and found that i really like the
road racing aspect for a change of pace. If you skipped this SIM, please get it
and try it out. You wont be sorry.

PassedYa

David G Fisher

opinion... if they ever want to be a big website, they need to have a

I agree with "Frank".

Without SCGT and especially RC2000, there's no reason for me to visit your
site.

David G Fisher