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by **DAVI** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Tim, can you teach me how to do that. I never seem to it going in the
race. I guess I need and wheel and pedals with a cltuch for games.

Dave

> Been a 2-footer since beginning sim-racing with my trusty T1 wheel. Got
so
> accustomed to it, I drive my actual cars 2 footed as well. Cant seem to
use
> my right foot for brakes anymore, just doesn't have the precision that my
> left foot does.

> Of course, driving a manual car forces me into "mostly" right foot
> braking... but you would be amazed how much braking I do with my left
foot
> even in a manual car <G>

> > I am curious as to how many of you drive (in GPL) with one foot or two.
> I'm
> > trying to drive with two feet and is proving to be a little weird. What
> say
> > you master GPLers?

by **Wayne Hutchiso** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Two feet here, just like with my race kart. Try driving a kart with only 1
foot!!

Wayne Hutchison

by **Chuck Kandle** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

> To another curious person, how teh hell DO you drive 1 foot?

> Seems strange to me, I didn't know people did it, but obviosly they do

> --
> GraDee

Just the same as driving any car with an automatic transmission.

--
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by **Chuck Kandle** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

> I thought so too. Isn't it logical that left foot braking is faster?
> With right foot braking, you constantly have to move your right foot
> from the gas to the braking pedal. This must cost time? And why use
> one foot for braking and giving gas, while you have two of them?

> Andre

You're probably right. But I have a rather unique situation here. My
chair not only swivels, it also does a "rocking" motion and rather
easily at that. To attempt to two foot drive is rather comical, with
the chair being tossed about. 8-0 Therefore it's also harder for me to
control. And so I adapted a one foot style. I like my chair. ;-)

--
//Chuck Kandler #70
//ChuckK or KS70 on Won.net
//K&S Racing
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by **Eldre** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Probably because my left foot isn't as 'co-ordinated'. I can never get the
correct brake pressure trying to stop. Strange, because I can play drums(well,
a while ago), and use both feet just fine...
So, Right-foot braking, 1:30.50 at Monza, 1:07.61 at WG. We won't even TALK
about the other tracks... :-)

Eldred
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by **Eldre** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

writes:

Because I drive that way in my road car, and have been doing it for almost 20
years...
Auto transmission, you know...
<g>
Eldred
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by **Chris Arnd** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Just how I learned driving a real car.

--

Chris Arndt
===============================
1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
"All I can do on a given day is put myself
in a position to win, and let circumstances
dictate the outcome"
-Richard Petty
http://CArndt.tripod.com

> To another curious person, how teh hell DO you drive 1 foot?

> Seems strange to me, I didn't know people did it, but obviosly they do

> --
> GraDee
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> Karting "3.65"
> www.esatclear.ie/~karting
> -------------------------------------------------------------
> "The dozens and dozens........."

> > I've always driven one foot. I'm curious as to see how you think it
could
> > possibly make a difference?
> > --

> > Chris Arndt
> > ===============================
> > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> > "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> > in a position to win, and let circumstances
> > dictate the outcome"
> > -Richard Petty
> > http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > > I believe any one to do one foot driving to be insane and am curious
as
> > > to what their lap times are. Implying that i'm a two footer.

> > > > I am curious as to how many of you drive (in GPL) with one foot or
> two.
> > I'm
> > > > trying to drive with two feet and is proving to be a little weird.
> What
> > say
> > > > you master GPLers?

by **Robert Grave** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

<I have some trouble to understand why in real racing many drivers have huge
<difficulties to go from right-foot to left-foot braking.

Just look at what Zanardi did this year in F1. Because he could not get a
grip with left foot braking, he sucked big time, while the year before,
where he using his right foot in CART, he was THE star.

I brake with my right foot with my road cars, automatic and manual, but use
my left foot in Sim racing. This way I'll be ready when I move from GPL F2
to "La Scuderia Ferrari" when Schumacher retires...

=:-D

by **Bob Curti** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I'm not a master GPLer, but I drive with two feet. It was a habit I formed
with my old Thrustmaster T1 & T2. It took me a long time to break the habit of
using throttle and brake simultaneously with my single axis pedals (TSW)
(Someday I'm going to rewire this bad boy.)

> I am curious as to how many of you drive (in GPL) with one foot or two. I'm
> trying to drive with two feet and is proving to be a little weird. What say
> you master GPLers?

--
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Worcester Area Strategy & Tactics Exchange
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"If God had intended men to join the Army he would have given us green, baggy
skin"

by **Andre Warring** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Eldred,

One of the suggestions to improve your laptimes was to start using
your left foot for braking. But as I just read in this thread, 1:28's
can easily be done with right-foot braking, so there goes that
suggestion :)

Andre

by **Graeme Nas** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I drive with two feet, one foot driving seems totally un-natural for me.
I can concentrate so much better with two.
As for laptimes, 1m27.1 at Monza, 1m18.6 at Kyalami, 1m04.2 at the Glen
(all Lotus, though my main car is the Ferrari).

--
Cheers!
Graeme Nash

by c » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

both feet. just like gokarts. its hard at first, but I'm sure its faster.
and you can use both at the same time (sometimes helpful). you save
precious milliseconds not having to take your foot off one pedal and move it
over to teh other.

> That's weird... I've always thought that left-brake right-gas gave
> quicker response, more control but i never knew that, so far, a good
> number of people used single foot. As for my times, 1:06.00 at WG, with
> heavy modification of my own 1:27.98 at Monza.

> > I am curious as to how many of you drive (in GPL) with one foot or two.
I'm
> > trying to drive with two feet and is proving to be a little weird. What
say
> > you master GPLers?

by **Kirk Lan** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

Still a 2-footer in sims and still using a T1!!! :)

1 foot in real life tho...yeah, as the other guy said, being 6'2" (and 16 :)
makes it kind of hard to get comfortable...even when the only two vehicles
you ever really drive are a '97 Suburban and a '70 GMC pickup (the latter is
finally automatic...I still can't get that fricking clutch down!! So I
can't drive my dad's '94 Camaro Z28! :(

--
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I'm going MIA
Tonight I'm leaving
Going MIA
Getting lost in you again
Is better than being known"
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> Been a 2-footer since beginning sim-racing with my trusty T1 wheel. Got so
> accustomed to it, I drive my actual cars 2 footed as well. Cant seem to
use
> my right foot for brakes anymore, just doesn't have the precision that my
> left foot does.

> Of course, driving a manual car forces me into "mostly" right foot
> braking... but you would be amazed how much braking I do with my left foot
> even in a manual car <G>

> > I am curious as to how many of you drive (in GPL) with one foot or two.
> I'm
> > trying to drive with two feet and is proving to be a little weird. What
> say
> > you master GPLers?

by **GraDe** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

I get it now,,,,,,,

What you all say about driving a real car, the left foot only goes on the
clutch and isn't used if its an auto-transmition.

Ah, I see where this is going yet for a racing game it seems awkward to me,
like you would loose time by doing this.......

....then again, since I've spent about 50 times as much driving karts then
real car then I suppose I'm just used to how a kart is driven.

--
GraDee (...who understands now!)
-------------------------------------------------------------
Karting "3.65"
www.esatclear.ie/~karting
-------------------------------------------------------------
"The dozens and dozens........."

> Just how I learned driving a real car.

> --

> Chris Arndt
> ===============================
> 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> in a position to win, and let circumstances
> dictate the outcome"
> -Richard Petty
> http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > To another curious person, how teh hell DO you drive 1 foot?

> > Seems strange to me, I didn't know people did it, but obviosly they do

> > --
> > GraDee
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > Karting "3.65"
> > www.esatclear.ie/~karting
> > -------------------------------------------------------------
> > "The dozens and dozens........."

> > > I've always driven one foot. I'm curious as to see how you think it
> could
> > > possibly make a difference?
> > > --

> > > Chris Arndt
> > > ===============================
> > > 1999 FSSPRO BGN Champion
> > > 1999 ISR Shootout Runner up
> > > "All I can do on a given day is put myself
> > > in a position to win, and let circumstances
> > > dictate the outcome"
> > > -Richard Petty
> > > http://CArndt.tripod.com

> > > > I believe any one to do one foot driving to be insane and am curious
> as
> > > > to what their lap times are. Implying that i'm a two footer.

> > > > > I am curious as to how many of you drive (in GPL) with one foot or
> > two.
> > > I'm
> > > > > trying to drive with two feet and is proving to be a little weird.
> > What
> > > say
> > > > > you master GPLers?

by **Magnus** » Thu, 30 Dec 1999 04:00:00

>Just look at what Zanardi did this year in F1. Because he could not get a
>grip with left foot braking, he sucked big time, while the year before,
>where he using his right foot in CART, he was THE star.

Are all drivers in CART braking with the right foot? Why is that? In F1 they
brake with the left I think.

/Magnus

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