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Attn: Papyrus--Track Creating/Editing Software

Eugene Prosse

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by Eugene Prosse » Mon, 17 Mar 1997 04:00:00

Instead of worrying about the legal issues of creating certain tracks why not create a software that will allow the user to build a new track from scratch. This way if "certain" tracks are built Papyrus could include a disclaimer stating that Papyrus is not responsible for tracks created by the software.

The Ha

Attn: Papyrus--Track Creating/Editing Software

by The Ha » Mon, 14 Apr 1997 04:00:00


Good idea man but if it doesnt do anything to promote or help the
online racing thing papy has then forget it. Hawg

Je

Attn: Papyrus--Track Creating/Editing Software

by Je » Tue, 15 Apr 1997 04:00:00



Also have you though how difficult it is going to be to use one of
these editors? I know for a fact that some of the programs used were
written in house and most likely (like myself and other software
developers I know) their just cobbled together to perform a specific
task without being considered for release.

Cheers

Jed
The Pits - http://www.thepits.demon.co.uk

Jim Sokolo

Attn: Papyrus--Track Creating/Editing Software

by Jim Sokolo » Wed, 16 Apr 1997 04:00:00




>>Good idea man but if it doesnt do anything to promote or help the
>>online racing thing papy has then forget it. Hawg

>Also have you though how difficult it is going to be to use one of
>these editors? I know for a fact that some of the programs used were
>written in house and most likely (like myself and other software
>developers I know) their just cobbled together to perform a specific
>task without being considered for release.

They're all written in house. They're all cobbled together. That,
coupled with the fact that it takes well over two person-months to do
a single track probably makes the release of track tools technically
unfeasible for the public market.

---Jim

Mike Fraz

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by Mike Fraz » Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Then make us more tracks.  Nuff said :)

Mike Frazer
(Get my email addy from the bottom of the page...the reply to addy
isnt my real one...)






>>>Good idea man but if it doesnt do anything to promote or help the
>>>online racing thing papy has then forget it. Hawg

>>Also have you though how difficult it is going to be to use one of
>>these editors? I know for a fact that some of the programs used were
>>written in house and most likely (like myself and other software
>>developers I know) their just cobbled together to perform a specific
>>task without being considered for release.

>They're all written in house. They're all cobbled together. That,
>coupled with the fact that it takes well over two person-months to do
>a single track probably makes the release of track tools technically
>unfeasible for the public market.

>---Jim

Mike Frazer
#11 American Airlines/STP/MBNA Ford, IGN
Prime Time Motorsports


Raav

Attn: Papyrus--Track Creating/Editing Software

by Raav » Thu, 17 Apr 1997 04:00:00






>>>Good idea man but if it doesnt do anything to promote or help the
>>>online racing thing papy has then forget it. Hawg

>>Also have you though how difficult it is going to be to use one of
>>these editors? I know for a fact that some of the programs used were
>>written in house and most likely (like myself and other software
>>developers I know) their just cobbled together to perform a specific
>>task without being considered for release.

>They're all written in house. They're all cobbled together. That,
>coupled with the fact that it takes well over two person-months to do
>a single track probably makes the release of track tools technically
>unfeasible for the public market.

>---Jim

GEE, MORE REASONS WHY PAPY CAN'T AND WON'T DO ANYTHING
 TO HELP "US"  DEVELOP A BETTER SIM IF THEY WON'T

WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT ???????

EXCUSE #????????   LOSING COUNT ---- GOTA GET MORE RAM!!!!

Chet Leno

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by Chet Leno » Fri, 18 Apr 1997 04:00:00



> >They're all written in house. They're all cobbled together. That,
> >coupled with the fact that it takes well over two person-months to do
> >a single track probably makes the release of track tools technically
> >unfeasible for the public market.

I don't exactly know the technical differences between the two, but maybe a
parallel can be drawn between N2 tracks and Quake levels.  Several very
good third party Quake editors can be found, with full Windows 95 versions
that are remarkably easy to use.  The availability of these has resulted in
hundreds (if not thousands) of new levels for Quake widely distributed on
the Net.  Like I mentioned before, I don't know all the fancy stuff that
Papyrus has to build into their tracks to make them drivable (pit
information, computer driver AI's, track "grip", heck, I could name a
bunch), Jim knows more I'm sure.  But the tracks themselves and surrounding
terrain/buildings/objects should be relatively easy (using Quake as a
reference).  It might require Papyrus/Sierra to release the file protocols
for tracks (or have some good hacker reverse-engineer them), something they
might want to do.

Chet.

Chasma

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by Chasma » Sat, 19 Apr 1997 04:00:00

Sorry guys.  Papy isn't gonna release any track editor nor will they
give the info out to help someone else make it.  I can't blame them
either.  The tracks are all copy protected and their use is contracted
to Papy for Nascar Racing.

Can't say much about reverse engineernig though <g>.

-------
Chasman

Simulator ***world
http://www.racesimcentral.net/







> >>>Good idea man but if it doesnt do anything to promote or help the
> >>>online racing thing papy has then forget it. Hawg

> >>Also have you though how difficult it is going to be to use one of
> >>these editors? I know for a fact that some of the programs used were
> >>written in house and most likely (like myself and other software
> >>developers I know) their just cobbled together to perform a specific
> >>task without being considered for release.

> >They're all written in house. They're all cobbled together. That,
> >coupled with the fact that it takes well over two person-months to do
> >a single track probably makes the release of track tools technically
> >unfeasible for the public market.

> >---Jim

> GEE, MORE REASONS WHY PAPY CAN'T AND WON'T DO ANYTHING
>  TO HELP "US"  DEVELOP A BETTER SIM IF THEY WON'T

> WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF THAT ???????

> EXCUSE #????????   LOSING COUNT ---- GOTA GET MORE RAM!!!!

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