rec.autos.simulators

>>> The car careens all over the place at the slightest steering input. Just
>keeping a straight line is impossible.... <<

>My experience is somewhat the same as yours. If it were not that this is a
>MS product and has come on stage with a great deal of good anticipation
>then I wouldn't give it the time of day after trying the demo. However I
>stand to be convinced as I persevere with it. I hope the release version,
>with perhaps any patches that come out shortly thereafter, will improve it
>to be as good as I had hoped.

>It is surprising that the demo seems as bad as it does. It hardly
>impresses. Rather the opposite.

>I dare say that most of the people on this newsgroup are not novices to
>racing sims. I, just as one example, have been racing MPs' World Circuit
>for years in no-aids mode, I drive or have driven NASCAR 1 & 2, GP2, ICR 1
>& 2 - all with no aids whatsoever at the highest levels. I do reasonably
>well at these games as do many others here. My point is that the people on
>this news group by and large have a considerable skill level at handling
>this kind of game - through many hundreds and probably thousands of hours
>at the various wheels. If the people on this newsgroup feel the game is on
>the poor side of being controllable, then what will the novice feel who
>buys the game ? I'd have to image they'd give it away as a bad joke.

>Also, I like many others here, WANT & HOPE it to be a great game. We like
>this kind of thing. Its our hobby. Racing sims are the only form of
>computer recreation I do. I look forward to seeing new titles in the hope
>that they'll provide another facet of enjoyment of what I like to do. Just
>like lots of other folks here I'd guess. If I'm biased at all its probably
>in favour of the item rather than against it.

>Like I say, I hope it does raise the artform and that this first impression
>proves to be wrong. At the moment though, IMHO, it looks very much like a
>version 1 job - I'm genuinely sad to say.

>Phillip McNelley

>The GRANDprix 2 Unoffical Manual
>http://www.powerup.com.au/~philmak/GP2MAN/

>>Hi Michael,

>>>> The car careens all over the place at the slightest steering input.
Just
>>keeping a straight line is impossible.... <<

>>My experience is somewhat the same as yours. If it were not that this is a
>>MS product and has come on stage with a great deal of good anticipation
>>then I wouldn't give it the time of day after trying the demo. However I
>>stand to be convinced as I persevere with it. I hope the release version,
>>with perhaps any patches that come out shortly thereafter, will improve it
>>to be as good as I had hoped.

>>It is surprising that the demo seems as bad as it does. It hardly
>>impresses. Rather the opposite.

>>I dare say that most of the people on this newsgroup are not novices to
>>racing sims. I, just as one example, have been racing MPs' World Circuit
>>for years in no-aids mode, I drive or have driven NASCAR 1 & 2, GP2, ICR 1
>>& 2 - all with no aids whatsoever at the highest levels. I do reasonably
>>well at these games as do many others here. My point is that the people on
>>this news group by and large have a considerable skill level at handling
>>this kind of game - through many hundreds and probably thousands of hours
>>at the various wheels. If the people on this newsgroup feel the game is on
>>the poor side of being controllable, then what will the novice feel who
>>buys the game ? I'd have to image they'd give it away as a bad joke.

>>Also, I like many others here, WANT & HOPE it to be a great game. We like
>>this kind of thing. Its our hobby. Racing sims are the only form of
>>computer recreation I do. I look forward to seeing new titles in the hope
>>that they'll provide another facet of enjoyment of what I like to do. Just
>>like lots of other folks here I'd guess. If I'm biased at all its probably
>>in favour of the item rather than against it.

>>Like I say, I hope it does raise the artform and that this first
impression
>>proves to be wrong. At the moment though, IMHO, it looks very much like a
>>version 1 job - I'm genuinely sad to say.

>>Phillip McNelley

>>The GRANDprix 2 Unoffical Manual
>>http://www.powerup.com.au/~philmak/GP2MAN/

>.

> Hi Michael,

> >> The car careens all over the place at the slightest steering input. Just
> keeping a straight line is impossible.... <<

> My experience is somewhat the same as yours. If it were not that this is a
> MS product and has come on stage with a great deal of good anticipation
> then I wouldn't give it the time of day after trying the demo. However I
> stand to be convinced as I persevere with it. I hope the release version,
> with perhaps any patches that come out shortly thereafter, will improve it
> to be as good as I had hoped.

> It is surprising that the demo seems as bad as it does. It hardly
> impresses. Rather the opposite.

> I dare say that most of the people on this newsgroup are not novices to
> racing sims. I, just as one example, have been racing MPs' World Circuit
> for years in no-aids mode, I drive or have driven NASCAR 1 & 2, GP2, ICR 1
> & 2 - all with no aids whatsoever at the highest levels. I do reasonably
> well at these games as do many others here. My point is that the people on
> this news group by and large have a considerable skill level at handling
> this kind of game - through many hundreds and probably thousands of hours
> at the various wheels. If the people on this newsgroup feel the game is on
> the poor side of being controllable, then what will the novice feel who
> buys the game ? I'd have to image they'd give it away as a bad joke.

> Also, I like many others here, WANT & HOPE it to be a great game. We like
> this kind of thing. Its our hobby. Racing sims are the only form of
> computer recreation I do. I look forward to seeing new titles in the hope
> that they'll provide another facet of enjoyment of what I like to do. Just
> like lots of other folks here I'd guess. If I'm biased at all its probably
> in favour of the item rather than against it.

> Like I say, I hope it does raise the artform and that this first impression
> proves to be wrong. At the moment though, IMHO, it looks very much like a
> version 1 job - I'm genuinely sad to say.

> Phillip McNelley

> The GRANDprix 2 Unoffical Manual
> http://www.powerup.com.au/~philmak/GP2MAN/

>>I have tried the various solutions posted here, and while they helped,
>>the sim is still nearly impossible to control. My best time is in the
>>125's, and I've been racing sims since the original Indy 500. I would
>>think a novice would find this game impossible. I had hoped that CPR
>>would be a much easier sim in it's driver aids, as I spent many
>>frustrating hours with ICR1 and 2. GP2 is the best at offering driver
>>aids and realism. I just don't think I'll be buying this sim. I'm trying
>>to imagine holding my line in a corner at Milwaukee with a car right
>>next to me. Crash, crash, crash. Oh, well.

>Did you try switching both sliders to the "left"?? How about changing the
the
>controller device from "racecar controller" to "joystick"???

>take care
>JD

> Hi Michael,

> >> The car careens all over the place at the slightest steering input. Just
> keeping a straight line is impossible.... <<

> My experience is somewhat the same as yours. <SNIP>