rec.autos.simulators

I have  a 64 Mb of Ram  P2 300 Mhz Dell Machine whith  a Matrox Millenium 2
with  8 Mb, and even with the latest tecnology i cannot semm to have control
over the car it just loses control on high speed, in my opinion you can`t
compare this game to Indycar 2, even that not being my favorite Sim ( my
fave is GP2 ).
On Cart PR i have everything runing every graphic and sound, but it really
doesn`t impress me.
I think it is a piece o shit, and thank God it came with an unninstall
button.
Frank

If the purpose of making the CART Precision Racing demo available is
to prime the pump for retail sales later this month it has failed
miserably.

First of all, I can't even get the demo to run (that is, actually
allow me to race) on my 5x86-133 with 64 megs of RAM and a Mystique 2
meg video card. It won't even run at the lowest resolution on my
machine. When I try to race the car takes off on its own and
overreacts ***ly to steering input (Thrustmaster GP1 wheel
calibrated in CART PR setup), making it veer left and right. I'm not
exactly a newbie to racing sims and I DID set up the preferences and
settings before running the game. Forget it, it just won't run.

Granted, I may not have the recommended hardware for CART PR, so I'm
not going to dwell on that. (I'll be interested to see how it works on
my soon-to-be-ready K6-200 upgrade, but I'm dubious.)

However, there are some other aspects of this sim that are absolutely
dreadful.

First, why are the mirrors drawn with just a little sliver of them
visible at the edge of the screen? I can see only the inside edge of
each mirror. It looks like about one quarter of the mirror is showing.

And what's with only one front tire at a time being visible? The demo
shows the inside of the right tire when steering left and the inside
of the left tire when steering right. When the car is going straight,
neither tire is visible. Are we supposed to believe that's realism?

I'm hoping these problems are due to the fact that CART PR doesn't
like my current primitive computer system. We were all hoping for an
outrageous new Indy car sim, but I think we've ended up with another
dud.

Jack Russell

Joe

I have a Presario 8702, and I get the same error too..makes no sense since I am
 running Flight Sim 98 and it uses the same technology....I also am totally
 disgusted with the frame rates..Guess I ll be spending my money on something
 besides Microsoft, which is good by me..

I think these things are a reflection of your current system. I am
running on an Intel p5-166, 32megs EDO, and a Monster 3D and the
performance while not overwhelming is acceptable (especially
considering my once state of the art system is now getting a bit long
in the tooth; )  ). I do think the graphics are great and I see both
tires and full mirrors. The head-panning thing is kind of wierd I
finally turned it off as it was too distracting. I think that if your
new setup agrees with CART more you will see that it is quite a fine
peice of work.

Gee, not everyone agrees with him...just 90% of the people.
Since when has Microsoft actually listened to people? All I have ever
seen MS do is tell us what we want, not ask us.
With Microsoft getting into *** all it means is soon MS will BE
***, and we will all need P3 600mhz and ungodly RAM just to watch the
slide show version of their game! More new computer sales = more new
Win9* sales = more new games, just outside our system specs. Its a
vicious circle.
-Jody-
Never was anti-MS before, but getting closer and closer every day.

I'm starting to hear of some problems with the K5 chips. I know several
people have run w/o problems with the K6. We'll investigate the k5 issues
you mention. Someone told me that some of the other racing games had to
patch for K5?

The reason you only see a sliver of the mirrors & one tire when turning is
because of two things:
1) CART determined that your CPU is slower & has shrunk the window to get a
better framerate. You can adjust the zoom with the [ & ] keys.
2) The head panning feature is looking into the apex of the turn (that's
why your field of view shifts). To turn this feature off, press the single
quote key during the sim, or uncheck it from the realism dialog box.

Hope this helps.
Eric (Cart Team).

P.S. During the sim, try pressing F1 for quickhelp - the autopilot
temporarily takes over & you can see what the control keys are.

Opinions on CART precision racing.

Where is the precision. I don't see any precision in this title !

I agree with all these people. The only constructive advice I can offer is
GIVE IT UP.  This game is really bad. Given todays available hardware
there is no reason stuff has to be this bad !

If the truth hurts, then I am sorry.

Hell the game doesn't even support 4 axis controllers !

I run P233MMX with 3DFX and all the hardware in the
world can't make a bad game seem good.

I don't know where all those glowing press reviews got their information

This one is a loser !

Not to stoke the flames, but perhaps you're system isn't properly
configured?  I have a 166, and the sim works pretty good (not
fantastic, but good - 80%) with most detail settings on (all if by my
lonesome :).

Cheers!

Marc

: It runs for me, but has no sound. When it starts it claims there is no
: DirectSound device, even though there is, it's DX5-certified

In c:\programfiles\directx\setup you will find dxinfo.exe.  If they all
say certified, then I can't help, but if they don't say certified they
won't work correctly.

I had the same exact problem.  I fixed it by reinstalling DirectX v5.
Then it found an "unknown" device.  I installed it as my soundcard (but
only after much frustration finding all of the files).  Then I reran
dxinfo and it all says Certified.

Now the demo works, as far as sound is concerned.
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Karter

What do you mean pices of shit, when N2 demo came out, it was much
worse.
then this demo.

And I dont really see any Big problems in this DEMO, except for the AI,
which should be fixed very easily.

Maybe you just give up too soon, remember every good sim, requires lots
of practise and pations.

And I think M.S. finally made something good.
Not that I like M.S, I use LInux most of the time, except for the games
:)

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Gregory Alferov, "Greg"                     ~~_____~~

http://home.inreach.com/tifosi/          [__]=[_(-)_]=[__]

CH Pedals
gas 3.axis
brakes 4.axis

That works just great in ICR2...

l8er
ronny

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          |\      _,,,---,,_        I want to die like my Grandfather,
   ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_              in his sleep.
        |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'     Not like the people in his car,
       '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

I have the same problem others posted with my T2, too sensitive.

No, you have "head panning" on.  Turn it off in one of the setup screens.