rec.autos.simulators

After playing Grand Prix Legends, Nascar 4, Viper Racing and the like, when
I play GT3 with my friends I can't help but think "arcade".

So my questions are...

1. Do you think GT3 is a "sim". If so, why? If not, then tell me why on
earth would console racers refer to it as such?

I should say, the only racer that I've ever thought of as a "sim" or
"sim-like" was Ferrari F355 Challenge on the Dreamcast.

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In PC terms - it's not.

Doug

I guess it's going to depend on your definition of sim. It's certainly
simulating driving many different *** cars and it does an
excellent job at it. I play it with a wheel and can feel the weight
of the cars going through corners.

You can setup the car and install parts in the car that ultimately
change the dynamics of the car.

It'll likely get marked down here because it doesn't have a***pit
view. However, it's the only game/sim I've driven where I didn't
mind the fact that it didn't have a***pit.

Only way you're going to make your mind up is to do some wheel time
with an FF wheel and make the decision yourself... it seems to be
one of those titles where there's a constant war between those that
accept that it has sim aspects and those who'll label it arcade based
solely on the fact that it's on the PS2.

Cheers,
Rod.

-Larry

-Larry

There is no in-car camera in GT3. The bumper cam doesn't count. An in car
camera shows the dashboard, instruments, steering wheel, etc. Just like
you were IN THE CAR, not sitting on the front bumper.

I enjoy GT3 every now and then. But it's not a sim.

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1)All of the cars have anti-lock brakes that cannot be disabled
2)I can post faster times with a dual shock controller than with the wheel

It does do a decent job with weight transfer and the overall feel of driving
but the two issues I listed above cause me to spend a lot more time with
GPL, N2002, and F1 2001.

mixdj1

Uhm, I believe that stuff is always on (tire wear and oil changes). At
least, I remember them being there anyhow... and yes, I usually change the
oil after a couple of races, as it gets a little brownish (from green of all
things, yeah I know... green oil heh).

I don't discount GT3 as a sim just because it doesn't have an incar view...
but I think a "sim" should certainly include that. I do think no damage
modeling an not effect for wrecking your car certainly would have to
discount any game the "sim" label. I mean, how could that not possibly
discount it of "sim"?

But moreover, I think the physics of the game are WAAAAY of on the higher
end cars. Have you gotten those yet? I mean, dude... their isn't even
anything remotely close to being a sim.

I don't think having a lot of cars and tracks and types of races makes
anything a "sim" and to me, that's all I really see there. I mean, depth
does not make a racing game a "sim" IMO.

I'm a simple animal, with decent neural functions, that calls itself
intelligent.

Now, has anyone found a way to trichord in GPL?

Jonny

Yup, a good old classic that Descent... too bad Descent3 didn't do well
financially... I have no idea why it didn't...

Just more of the same? I bought 1 and 2 and was pretty much done with the
whole concept by the time 3 came out.

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