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A friend of mine just gave me a slightly used ( maybe a month) LWFF steering
wheel and I was wondering what are the best settings for NR2002. I have set
the non-linearity to 80% and the force and damping to 100. I have also set
the wingman profiler to 130% for force. Is there anything else I can do to
strengthing the force? I feel like there should be more output on this
thing. How about a file edit somewhere in NR2002? Also do I have to have the
wingman profiler running all the time? Sorry for all the questions but I
have never had a FF wheel and this is all new to me. I have been racing for
5 years now and it just doesn't feel right. Maybe I have built up in my mind
what is should feel like and this wheel just is not delivering. Just my
thoughts. Any advice will be appreciated.

Thanks,
John

Im cutting my teeth on FF too after about 5 or 6 years of elastowheels. The
first thing i noticed is you have damping pumped up to 100%. Damping is like
shock absorbtion. Its offsetting whatever you have the forces set to, if im
fiddling with my setup properly.
 After about 2 hours of dabbling with my new Momo FF wheel, ive settled on
75% force, 60% spring, and 25% damping (with GPL) just until i get a chance
to get used to it more. I have this thing mounted to a wooden desk with an 1
1/4 thick top. It also doubles as a desk for my ham radio gear, and the
drawers are filled with other PC/radio gear. The wheel has no problem
shaking this "electric" desk of mine when testing the FF forces in the
control panel.
 Fiddle with your settings, and if not satisfied, try another wheel at
yonder electronic wonderland. Im guessing you have your settings wound up
too tight maybe..

Turn Damping right down, start at zero & work your way up if need be,
latency should also be as low as possible but what you need will depend
entirely on your system. Also the amount of castor in your car setup will
affect the force you feel. Can't help with wheel specific settings.

Steve.

Try setting linearity to 100% first, that should increase the force in the
center a bit.  Also try a road course before you set it too high.  The
speedway settings should be pretty light, in real life they use very slow
steering (high ratio) and also it is power assisted, so you shouldn't expect
it to feel like a sports car.  On road courses the use a much lower ratio
(faster) steering gear which will probably feel very heavy at your current
settings.

Thanks guys the damping helped a bunch but again I really don't notice a
difference with FF, meaning I really can't tell get any feedback from the
car when I am driving it. Yes there is a force on the wheel I have to fight
to keep it in the turn but this force doesn't get lighter as the car gets
looser. Shouldn't this force be variable, meaning it would get stronger as
you approace the apex of a turn and lighten up as you exit? Yes the force on
this wheel goes away as you exit the turn but it does it at the very end.
Also I can't tell when the back end gets loose. Am I expecting too much or
is there something else I can try?
Thanks again,
John

Could try turning down the force setting in the profiler, if it's too high
it can saturate the force so you get max force all the time. It can take
time to get the settings right with FFB but when its right you should
definately get a feel for tight & loose, especially with NR2002. Really with
a good setup you shouldn't have too fight the force much on a speedway as
there is less caster effect when the car is travelling in the proper
direction. Keep tweaking the settings when you get it right it's definately
worth it.

Steve.

The FF in NR2002 is tied into the castor setting, so it's going to change
with each track. In the default setups for the super speedways, castor is
sometimes set at 0, so you won't feel much FF.
The Damping setting in Win Controller Panel adds viscosity to the wheel.
Think of it as trying to run in water up to your hips. It doesn't cancel
Spring forces.
Games like GPL and NR4 & up use Constant Forces for the force feedback
programming, so Spring Gain in controller panel should be set to 0. (Spring
Gain has no effect, but on some computers a setting other than 0 could cause
spurious anomalies such as spiking.)

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