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by **Evan Sayr** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to
run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a
frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2
fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised
on the box?

Evan Sayre

by **Michael E. Carve** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

% I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to
% run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a
% frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2
% fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised
% on the box?

I suppose you can read it as that. For the present (and maybe the
future), you either need a 3DFX or Rendition card to achieve maximum
frame rate peformance from GPL. Since you already have a good 2d/3d
card, I would suggest getting a Voodoo2 card to work in conjunction with
it. (BTW: Sierra doesn't have any "vested" interests in 3DFX cards.)

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by **NanaKo** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Even with your system, the only way you are going to dramitcally increase
your frame is by getting a Rendition based video card or a 3dfx video card.
I have a P2/350. I didn't have diddly squat in fps until I got a Voodoo2.
Now I get 36/37 fps.

by **Jeff Vince** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:44:13 -0500, "Evan Sayre"

>I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to
>run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a
>frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2
>fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised
>on the box?

GPL *really wants* a 3Dfx or Rendition 3D card (it will give you
the full 36 fps in 800x600 [or higher] that the sim is capable of).
It is in the "recommended" portion of the system specs, which is
debatable. OTOH, think of the poor guys using software mode with a
lesser CPU...

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by **Mark** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 1 Jan 1999 10:44:13 -0500, "Evan Sayre"

>I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to
>run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting a
>frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping 2
>fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised
>on the box?

>Evan Sayre

Evan, apparently there are OpenGL drivers and then there are
OpenGL drivers. I've seen your specific problem mentioned before
(horrible OpenGL FPS), and if I recall correctly it boils down to
getting an OpenGL driver specific for your card, if available.
Check the ATI website or do a websearch. I think there's a
driver involved at the Papy website also.

Hopefully someone will jump in with the specific info, but in the
interim I'd suggest you dig around a bit on the OpenGL issue.
And the suggestions to pick up a Voodoo2 card would be the
ultimate overall solution. I think it would be a safe guess that
the majority of us hooked on high-end games/sims are running a
3dfx card.

by **Evan Sayr** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

What is the minimum memory I should get?

by **Randy Wilso** » Sat, 02 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Might as well get 12 megs now, since you'll be able to "SLI" it when u win
the lottery next year :) (plus 8's are going out & 12's have really come
down in price)

>What is the minimum memory I should get?

>>I have a PII 450 w/ 128megs of RAM and an ATI Rage Pro. All I am able to
>>run GPL in is 640x480 in Software rendering mode. Even then I am getting
a
>>frame rate of 20 tops. I have tryed the OpenGL and have gotten a whopping
>2
>>fps. Any help? Or has Sierra again sold a product that wasn't advertised
>>on the box?

>>Evan Sayre

by **Eldre** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

Been there, done that, bought a new computer. Stupid(for a game!), but
effective... :)
Eldred

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by **Mike Buckle** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

I've currently got a 200 Pentium, 32 RAM and a Voodoo1 card, running
with 8 opponents and about half the graphics I get about 18-22 FPS. The
question is - which should I upgrade next? Should I get more RAM,
upgrade to a voodoo2 or upgrade the motherboard/CPU??
Obviously the CPU is the best but most expensive and I'm really after a
cheaper short term solution. Would it be worth getting a Voodoo2 or is
the bottleneck with the processor and RAM?

Thanks
--
Mike Buckley

by **Michael E. Carve** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

% I've currently got a 200 Pentium, 32 RAM and a Voodoo1 card, running
% with 8 opponents and about half the graphics I get about 18-22 FPS. The
% question is - which should I upgrade next? Should I get more RAM,
% upgrade to a voodoo2 or upgrade the motherboard/CPU??
% Obviously the CPU is the best but most expensive and I'm really after a
% cheaper short term solution. Would it be worth getting a Voodoo2 or is
% the bottleneck with the processor and RAM?

The best approach is to upgrade everything! However, a voodoo2 won't
help much in you situation as it relies on some CPU horsepower. The
quickest and easiest upgrade would be a new Rendition card. But, I
don't know how much more in frame rate you would really achieve, as
running with AI again needs CPU horsepower. First upgrade your CPU/MB
and while you are at it, plug in at least 64 mb of RAM.

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**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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by **Steve Garrot** » Tue, 05 Jan 1999 04:00:00

>I've currently got a 200 Pentium, 32 RAM and a Voodoo1 card, running
>with 8 opponents and about half the graphics I get about 18-22 FPS. The
>question is - which should I upgrade next? Should I get more RAM,
>upgrade to a voodoo2 or upgrade the motherboard/CPU??
>Obviously the CPU is the best but most expensive and I'm really after a
>cheaper short term solution. Would it be worth getting a Voodoo2 or is
>the bottleneck with the processor and RAM?

>Thanks
>--
>Mike Buckley

I have a Pentium MMX 200MHz, 64MB RAM, and a Vodoo1 card. I get about
the same frame rate as you. SO more RAM is not going to help. A voodo2
may help, but I really think your money would be best used in a new
Motherboard and CPU purchase.

SLG

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and improved ways of spelling old words. Gramatical errors are
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