rec.autos.simulators

As far as the replay is concerned this is old news as I told you guys
before. Huggins straight away speed is unusual on most replays. Just
like there are guys that have unusual corner speeds. I dont know the
answers here. I would however caution you against using speed benchmarks
as proof of cheating!  If you do you are saying one of two things either
you think Dave will never hit 190 at 50 or whatever it was -or- If he
does he is a proven cheater. If hawaii was around I'd bet he could hit
it in 6 months!. I have only been on hawaii for about 9 months and I
remeber when 133 was blazing at Bristol.  I have seen you guys doing 196
s at MIS at 120. If you had done this a year ago you would have been
accused of being the big ole cheaters. I just wish  this stuff would
end. If you decide not to join a pickup that Huggins is in that is your
perogative, but how can you aske him not to join an open race just
because your in it? It might be the only race up. I am really surprised
if Huggins tried to wreck you on purpose. I have been in three races
where people went mental and tried to take him out so If he lost it I
guess I could see it but its still difficult to imagine. Remember warps
are worse at warp speed! I think you guys are getting to worked up about
this whole thing. I was just LUCKY enough to win only my second and
third races ever and I won them 2 in a row (all 3 at Loudon) I was very
pumped. Somebody made a joke that I was cheating. Which of course I can
assure you Im not. I hit a 132.968 (by far my best) in practice. But
Josh can blow my doors off! If I was cheating purely based on my speed,
then it logicaly follows that he is cheating! I dont think he is
cheating and I know Im not. I went from 128s to 132s without a SINGLE
change to a setup created by TCE, chassis or tires. Just practice of a
line shown to me by Mike Lentz. You guys are all great fast racers I
think your wasting to much energy on what Huggins does. Just an opinion
from one "loser"

It's not just is straightawy speeds it's how his car accerlertes and how he
can get in a wreck and have his car demolished but a lap later he has no
damage and running down a 2 or more car draft by a sec or more a lap and no
adve will never do a 190.5 at 50 degrees because it is totally impossiable
to do legally and we were doing 196's at Mich last year by the way,plus
from what I have heard Huggy was caught and suspended last year for
cheating and I do remember him coming on as Tester01after that and he would
be able to start a race by himself and it would post 201 to 202 laptimes by
himself.He was doing that for Hawaii to help catch cheaters,but from what I
have heard from Hawaii he is not involved with them anymore and he's up to
it again and they just can't figure out to stop him or how to detect it.

Robert Platts
GT86

Why not post this in alt.binaries where it belongs?...Way too big.

Regards,

Marc J. Nelson
Sim Racing Online / Sim Racing News / The Sim Project
http://members.aol.com/simracing

Not a good thing to do. That's definitely breaking the rules.

I notice you broke another UseNet etiquette *rule* by posting Dave Matson's
private email in a public forum.

Robert, I raced pickups along time ago. I remember you as a good
clean driver. Don't become a monster while chasing one. It doesn't
help your argument if you start breaking a bunch of rules while
complaining about another rule breaker. Just let it go... It's no thing,
man. Let Papy deal with Huggins in their own way. BTW, you don't
have to race with him. I've been on Hawaii for almost 14 months and
I've only raced with him a couple of times AFAIK.

Mike Radler

Member - Hawaii Ace League http://www.dithots.org/hal

Someone is cheating...

You appeal to the people in charge.

You don't get any satisfaction.

I guess the next step is bite the ear off the cheater.

If that doesn't work, bite the other ear.

You won't have to deal with HIS cheating anymore.

mykey

This is old news. Sure, I've seen things that go beyond the scope of
"normal", especially at Dega. Cheating? Probably, as cheating is defined.
But this has been public knowledge and/or speculation for at least 6
months. I gladly race against Mr. Huggins because a) he has never wrecked
me and is always courteous when in my proximity...and b) because of the
challenge...to keep up with Huggins at Dega is like keeping up with Dave
at Atlanta, or Schill at Bristol, or Robert at Darlington, etc.  If they
beat me, it's 3 points...if I beat them it's 3 points. Big deal. The
challenge is in running with the fastest cleanly and gentlemanly. If
someone is cheating, that's their problem....ultimately it will come back
to haunt them. Hawaii is just a prep for the NRO...when I suspect things
will really get serious. At that time I am confident the organizers will
be less than forgiving of all who try to circumvent the standards of fair
competition.

Respectfully,
Trevor Keane
ARCA_BOB/DirtDevil on Hawaii

All this time I thought we were talking about Jody.

Just kidding Jody :)

mykey

sheesh...I thought we were talking about leaky diapers...  =P

Marc