rec.autos.simulators

Bring back a playable Racing Sim.

Jo

Bring back a playable Racing Sim.

by Jo » Thu, 18 Dec 1997 04:00:00


>Funny, I could say exactly the same about you,

Nonsense, I've provided nothing but simple facts and logic. I don't
resort to the "You don't know anything!" name-calling argumentative
style that is your forte.

Has nothing to do with it. I've seen the results of the programming,
and DOS joystick code works one hell of a lot better than the
DirectInput mess in Win95.

Another example of how desperate you are - your continued nonsensical
claim that my joystick is "broken" when in fact it works perfectly
under DOS. Only in Win95 are there problems. This is undeniable
evidence that the joystick is not broken.

In other words, your "argument" is that I'm either incompentent or a
liar. Welcome to Ttammi's School of Ad-Hominin Debating folks!

Joe

Jim Sokolof

Bring back a playable Racing Sim.

by Jim Sokolof » Thu, 18 Dec 1997 04:00:00



> >WIn95 has some problems when it gomes to *** and its too hard to
> >troubleshoot. Anytime you install or delete an application,game or
> >even a demo you run the risk of corrupting files or screwing up the
> >registry.

> Sorry, that has never happened to me, and I've installed and
> uninstalled lots of Win95 games and demos. For a Win95 game to "corrupt
> files or screwing up registery" is about as probable as a MS-DOS game
> deleting your DOS directory, all sys-files and autoexec.bat.

My "Utter and Total Nonsense" meter just bent its peg... Are you
telling me that you've never installed a Win95 game and had something
bad happen to an unrelated part of your system? No DLL conflicts? No
disabling of MSIE? :-)

I've never had a DOS game disable the system. At worst, some
misbehaving DOS setup programs slightly mangled an autoexec.bat
file. That's a lot easier to recover from than DLL versioning
problems, registry pollution or corruption, etc.

The fact remains that DOS is soon to be totally dead, and that's
probably a good thing for developers and publishers. It's not clear
that it's such a good thing for technically savvy customers. (But,
since those people represent about 1% of the market, it's still good
for developers and publishers...)

I've had to re-install DOS exactly once other than for a hardware
hard-drive failure in many years of using DOS. (And that one time was
because I stomped all over the partition by fat-fingering a Linux
install, so it's not really DOS's fault. I've had to re-install Win95
five times in the past two years, only one of which was due to a hard
drive failure. Draw your own conclusions.

No, but I've seen plenty of games that run just fine in DOS and pause
and stutter horrendously in Win95. Most Papy sims, TDOR, etc. In most
cases, I've been able to reduce but not eliminate the stuttering. And
I don't have top of the line hardware, but I've got 32-64 MB of RAM
(depending on system), fast IDE or fast SCSI disks, and Pentium
Classics in the three figures of MHz range. For me, playing the games
I like in DOS gives me day and dusk differences in qualitative feel.

---Jim

elgau..

Bring back a playable Racing Sim.

by elgau.. » Fri, 19 Dec 1997 04:00:00

: DirectInput mess in Win95.

: >Actually, the extra hardware cannot help your broken joysticks.

: Another example of how desperate you are - your continued nonsensical
: claim that my joystick is "broken" when in fact it works perfectly
: under DOS. Only in Win95 are there problems. This is undeniable
: evidence that the joystick is not broken.

: >Just saying "do not" repeatedly won't deny the facts.

: In other words, your "argument" is that I'm either incompentent or a
: liar. Welcome to Ttammi's School of Ad-Hominin Debating folks!

: Joe

I can relate to that; I need to calibrate Nas1 and Indy2 every time in
DOS, and still can't find a way to get the joystick working under Win95

Why? Because of the Lots.Of.Shit. Microsoft gave us in Win95

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