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On a 200, you might not see all *that* much differance between a V1 and a V2,
or so conventional wisdom goes.  But for the future, and considering the
lowered prices of the V2, I'd go V2.  For the same reason, I'd choose the
12mb. Most benchmarks have shown no diff between the two memory configs,
unless there are a lot of textures.  Expect texture size to increase now that
there are a lot of 16MB cards on the shelves.

None, or none worth speaking of.  Go by features (do you want TV out?) and
price.

Can anyone name one other game that has native Rendition support that isn't
affiliated with Sierra?????

Jerry Morelock

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In raw framerate, no real difference. But running at 1024x768 at the same
speed as 640x480 was impressive when I was using a 12Mb V2 on my P200mmx.

But if money's a problem, I'd say get the cheapest V1 you can find and
enjoying the driving... that's what matters most.

Andrew McP

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Jerry Morelock

Actually, the question is.. can you name 1 other Rendition based game that
is a great of a game as GPL???  That is by Sierra.. the point is, we now
have Voodoo 2 cards, TNT cards, G200 cards.. and Sierra is still stuck on
their damn Rendition cards.

Did any of you know that Sierra fought to get 3Dfx support in GPL?  They
wanted to do another Nascar2 repeat buy having support for Rendition only.
If you LOVE the sierra sports game.. then Rendition is a great card, because
your choice is limited.  If you want to buy something that you can use for
more than 1 year, than go TNT.

Even 3Dfx boards are already outdated compared to their Rev. 2, boards that
haven't come out yet.  Voodoo 2 cards are great for the amount of games out
there.  But it's still gonna het ya over 200 for a Diamond Monster 2 12mb
card... and double that price just to reach 1280x764 resolution.  I paid
less than 200 and can reach higher resolutions than that, with faster frame
rates.

(As long as the game company properly supports it)
3Dfx has a wonderful marketing department, they really win over their
supporters and therefore they get their card used in their games.  I think
maybe 3Dfx should make a TNT based card.

While I now have a Voodoo 2, I used a Rendition card for a long time.  Until
the Riva 128, the ONLY real 3D cards were by 3dfx and Rendition.  Period.  I
was running 3D stuff in '96 with a Rendition V1000.  The only cards faster
than the 2100/2200 Rendition cards until the last few months were the Voodoo
2's.  So supporting Rendition makes a heckuva lot of sense.

The other point you don't grasp - TNT doesn't have a NATIVE programming
mode, only D3D (and OpenGL for Quake).  But since D3D was a pain to program
and couldn't support a lot of the features until just recently with DX6,
Rendition and 3dfx were smart enough to have API's to support their cards
natively, so games could be programmed to run faster and with more features
on their cards than using D3D.  Papyrus already had a lot of experience with
Rendition programming, and of course since they supported it in their other
titles they knew that a lot of their customers would have these cards.  With
the prevalence of Voodoo 1/2's they were smart to add Glide support too.

See, they DO support 3dfx "like the rest of the world".  Just like a lot of
other sims.  And like a lot of them, it doesn't do D3D.  I bought the
hardware that runs my software, so don't miss out on anything.  Those who
buy hardware and hope that they get a patch later to run their software knew
that going in, and shouldn't complain.  They've sold a lot of Riva 128's,
but I still see a lot of games that are Glide only, and a lot of not-so-old
Glide / Rendition games that never got patched to D3D.  So buying a TNT for
some mythical future D3D patch to GPL would be kinda stupid, it supports
Rendition and 3dfx Glide.  A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush as
they say.  If you get a TNT, don't complain 6 months from now about lack of
a patch.

Ken

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