rec.autos.simulators

by **Brian Bowle** » Sun, 08 Sep 2002 07:26:04

I know there are some older motorcycle racing sims that are real good. Which
one is the best? Thanks

by **Doug Elliso** » Sun, 08 Sep 2002 07:36:23

Best physics - probably GP500. If the netcode were slightly better - this
would genuinely be the GPL of bike sims.

The Superbike series ( SBK 2000 and 2001) have stunning track accuracty and
detail - and good physics - but not quite upto GP500's level

DOug

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sun, 08 Sep 2002 07:37:44

Personally, I'm quite partial to SBK2001, but I think the general consensus
is GP500 is the overal winner. Seeing as both xhould be budget titles I say
get both.

Jan.
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by **Luke Phillip** » Sun, 08 Sep 2002 13:46:16

Unfortunatley if you are looking for realism, you wont get any in a bike
sim. GP500 is the most realistic but you are talking about the same amount
of realism as Need for speed or similar... sort of realistic but not at all
if you know what i mean. As for the realism of the tracks, as doug posted
above, i would have to disagree about the tracks. The only Australian track
is Phillip Island which i have completed millions of laps around and is
nowhere near how it is. It doesnt even have the beach, they put trees there
instead! :). The handling is SBK2001 is pretty pittyful, the wheelspin is
the big downfall... as soon as you get a little wheelspin, you loose 100%
traction which of course, is bullshit :). Hopefully oneday somebody will
bring out a true bike simulator but i can see how it would be difficult
becuase the positioning of the rider has a big effect on handling, and to
control a rider and a bike would be like playing a piano.

Cool Hand Luke
-=87=-

by **Positive** » Sun, 08 Sep 2002 21:13:06

I've played most.
IMO, it's MotoGP on the Xbox.
Awesome sense of speed with the blur effect.

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by **Phoenix Knig** » Sun, 08 Sep 2002 22:09:33

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I found GP500 to be the best of the bike sims on the market. Comparing
it to the SBK titles it always seem to come out on top. The physics
are realistic enough, in that they require a lot of concentration and
determination. You'll notice a big difference between the weights of
bikes, but sadly not much between the engine setups - although I can
only speak for myself!

The good thing is, GP500 has been out for a few years but still looks
and feels the part.

by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:39:09

> > I know there are some older motorcycle racing sims that are real good.
> Which
> > one is the best? Thanks

> Best physics - probably GP500. If the netcode were slightly better - this
> would genuinely be the GPL of bike sims.

> The Superbike series ( SBK 2000 and 2001) have stunning track accuracty and
> detail - and good physics - but not quite upto GP500's level

the problem with SBK2001 isn't the physics (which aren't too bad), but
the lack of feedback (and I don't mean FF). one thing that screams
idiocy is that they haven't modulated the sound from throttle input,
so it's all but impossible to give exactly the right amount of right
hand in the corners.

a shame, really.

another little game design gem is the decision to just place all human
riders in a multiplayer game at the back of the grid. no qualifying
session, no practice.

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Gunnar
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gnus don't kill people. gnus-summary-lower-score kills people.

by **Gunnar Horrigm** » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:40:45

> I've played most.
> IMO, it's MotoGP on the Xbox.
> Awesome sense of speed with the blur effect.

yeah. speed blurring is what makes a sim realistic.

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Gunnar
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FJ?SE!

by **Adria** » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:53:27

Yep I played GP 500 for many hours at one time and it is a great game. My
favourite though is SBK 2001 just for the complete package it gives you, the
graphics are still cutting edge and if you play it on its most difficult
setting no aids at all etc.. this game is a real peach. It really takes some
skill and practice to master it but the rewards are well worth the effort.
Problem is finding friends to play with, I know few people with the game
but they all seem to think it is too hard. In my opinion this is the GPL of
bike sims but GP 500 still has a good following so each to their own. Gp 500
graphics are just too dated for me to play it anymore unfortunately.

Adrian.

> > > I know there are some older motorcycle racing sims that are real good.
> > Which
> > > one is the best? Thanks

> > Best physics - probably GP500. If the netcode were slightly better -
this
> > would genuinely be the GPL of bike sims.

> > The Superbike series ( SBK 2000 and 2001) have stunning track accuracty
and
> > detail - and good physics - but not quite upto GP500's level

> the problem with SBK2001 isn't the physics (which aren't too bad), but
> the lack of feedback (and I don't mean FF). one thing that screams
> idiocy is that they haven't modulated the sound from throttle input,
> so it's all but impossible to give exactly the right amount of right
> hand in the corners.

> a shame, really.

> another little game design gem is the decision to just place all human
> riders in a multiplayer game at the back of the grid. no qualifying
> session, no practice.

> --
> Gunnar
> #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo: 2
> gnus don't kill people. gnus-summary-lower-score kills people.

by **John Pancoas** » Tue, 10 Sep 2002 22:59:17

The thing I've never liked about GP500, is the "on or off, no in between"
when you lean the bike. It goes in phases, click, click, click, instead of
smoothly, like SBK does. Even the replay shows it.

Maybe it's something to do with the joystick I use, but the same thing
doesn't happen in SBK, so who knows.

John

> Yep I played GP 500 for many hours at one time and it is a great game. My
> favourite though is SBK 2001 just for the complete package it gives you,
the
> graphics are still cutting edge and if you play it on its most difficult
> setting no aids at all etc.. this game is a real peach. It really takes
some
> skill and practice to master it but the rewards are well worth the effort.
> Problem is finding friends to play with, I know few people with the game
> but they all seem to think it is too hard. In my opinion this is the GPL
of
> bike sims but GP 500 still has a good following so each to their own. Gp
500
> graphics are just too dated for me to play it anymore unfortunately.

> Adrian.

> > > > I know there are some older motorcycle racing sims that are real
good.
> > > Which
> > > > one is the best? Thanks

> > > Best physics - probably GP500. If the netcode were slightly better -
> this
> > > would genuinely be the GPL of bike sims.

> > > The Superbike series ( SBK 2000 and 2001) have stunning track
accuracty
> and
> > > detail - and good physics - but not quite upto GP500's level

> > the problem with SBK2001 isn't the physics (which aren't too bad), but
> > the lack of feedback (and I don't mean FF). one thing that screams
> > idiocy is that they haven't modulated the sound from throttle input,
> > so it's all but impossible to give exactly the right amount of right
> > hand in the corners.

> > a shame, really.

> > another little game design gem is the decision to just place all human
> > riders in a multiplayer game at the back of the grid. no qualifying
> > session, no practice.

> > --
> > Gunnar
> > #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo:
2
> > gnus don't kill people. gnus-summary-lower-score kills people.

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